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World vs. world quality

Facts, figures and data (as at 06/2024)


A few days ago, I shared a comparison between the MSCI World Index and the MSCI World Momentum Index on getquin, which was quite well received [1].


@FlorianoPerlini I suggested in a comment that I should also post a comparison with the MSCI World Quality Index. Since the World Quality Index has also been around for 30 years, there is nothing to be said against it. Here you go!


Stop talking, I'm here for the numbers!


All right. Here are the average annual returns of the MSCI World Index and MSCI World Quality Index over the last X years:


5 years, World: 13.31%, Quality: 17.31%

10 years, World: 9.71%, Quality: 13.17%

30 years, World: 8.32%, Quality: 11.88%


You can find the source at [2].


I suck at math. Impress me with absolute numbers!


If you invested USD 10,000 in the MSCI World 30 years ago, today it has become USD 109,966.28. If you had opted for the MSCI World Quality Index instead, you would now have USD 290,117.36 😳. Almost three times as much.


That is indeed impressive. What's the catch? Gigantic risk?


The max drawdown of the World over the last 30 years is 57.46%, that of Quality 48.01%. The Sharpe ratio is 0.43 for the World and 0.68 for Quality. You can find further comparative values at [2].


And now? Sell everything and switch to World Quality?


A comparison with the World Momentum Index [1] has already made it clear that this is a very good alternative or addition to a diversified equity portfolio. The World Quality Index adds another 0.62% average annual return compared to the Momentum Index and could therefore also be integrated into your own portfolio with a clear conscience.


Donkey, you're boring me! This post looks exactly like the one a few days ago when you compared World and Momentum 😠.


Okay, I'll let you in on a little secret. As I wrote in the last paragraph, you could put the World Quality Index in your portfolio with a clear conscience. If there was an ETF on it.


What are you talking about? I'll just get the $XDEQ (-0.83%)
and that's that.


But it's not based on the MSCI World Quality Index, but on the MSCI World Sector Neutral Quality Index. And the two are different. The MSCI World Sector Neutral Quality Index was launched in 1998 (Quality Index: 1994), 10-year performance at 10.28% / year (Quality Index: 13.17%), 5-year performance at 13.61% / year (Quality Index: 17.31%). The MSCI World Sector Neutral Quality Index still outperforms the MSCI World [3] over the long term, but not as clearly as the MSCI World Quality Index.


If you look at the comparison of quality ETFs from JustETF [4], there is actually no ETF listed that is based on the MSCI World Quality Index.


Your wisdom seems to be infinite. I think I'm in love 🥰. What ultimate tip do you have for me?


DYOR - do your own research. Get to grips with the products you're investing in and don't rely on superficial information. And certainly don't trust some random donkey on the internet.


Sources (the fact sheets are constantly updated, this article is not)


[1] https://getqu.in/CDEnfS/

[2]

https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/344aa133-d8fa-4a15-b091-20a8fd024b65

[3] https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/f22aa42d-3d6b-478e-a4e4-26d56428ede4

[4] https://www.justetf.com/de/how-to/invest-in-quality-etfs.html


A comparison with the MSCI World Value Index and a summary of World vs Momentum vs Quality vs Value can be found here: https://getqu.in/TD3OT2/

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very strong report. even the Testo investor has to take a bow! Super work! Nevertheless, it is difficult to integrate something like this into a global portfolio, BECAUSE the US share in quality is also around 70%.... therefore also difficult to integrate as a satellite ... without the US share immediately shooting up to 80% ... or are there any sensible suggestions?
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@Testo-Investor quality ETFs should also be available for specific regions. However, I personally have no problem with a high USA share
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@DonkeyInvestor but I ... at least with much too high and everything over 60% is very unhealthy
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@Testo-Investor I have added the $FYEQ to my $FGEQ and I'm saving both :)
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@mhu also an interesting combination
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Great post, thanks! (As with the comparison to Momentum)
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Thank you! Super! 👍🏼
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Sorry but the GIF doesn't work at all
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@Alpalaka had considered whether I should mention you in the article
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@DonkeyInvestor would have been if😴
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@Alpalaka at the next one, okay?
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@DonkeyInvestor Deal 🫱🏽‍🫲🏾
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so you mean about three fifty better 🤔
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@0850 that's actually pretty accurate 🤣
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Do I now have to search for such a quality ETF or why was no ETF mentioned here?
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@Olli68 Have you read the article? Then you would know that there is no index that tracks the index. There are only some that map similar indices. One of them is linked in the article, the others in the sources
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@DonkeyInvestor Is there actually a clear reason why this index is not yet tracked in ETFs? It's the "gap in the market".
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@ProMau Unfortunately, I have no idea. But since my knowledge doesn't get me anywhere either, I'm not motivated to do any research 😅
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Is the value and the interaction of the 3 also coming? 😍 then you've arrived at the one that I'm slowly integrating into the portfolio in terms of msci world.
40% of the etfs world
15% momentum
15% quality sector neutral (as long as there is nothing better)
15% value

The missing 15% for me is the EM with two factors. (I can't find any momentum)
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@SchlaubiSchlumpf value is probably still to come 🫣. The pure MSCI world value index is not available as an ETF either. Which one do you have?
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@DonkeyInvestor the $XDEV. You take what you get 😅
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One thing I ask myself with such posts, are these just old profits (because Apple, Ms,...) were already in the portfolio early on or would a YTD have only run roughly the same in different phases?
Could you explain that?

Otherwise you could just add your satellites to the index...? As an idea to "there is no ETF but I still want dividends"
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@ThiloM Sorry, I don't understand the question correctly. The profits are of course for the last 30 years and may develop differently in the future.

And I don't understand the satellite thing at all 😅.

Can you rephrase your questions?
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Logo. In addition to the satellites, I thought I would simply buy some from the upper field of the last few years, as was done in the MSCI Quality ratio.

To the post: If you had bought the MSCI Quality/Momentum only 3 years ago, would the performance be as convincing as that of the MSCI World? Or is it so convincing because a large number of top stocks were already included in the index 20 years ago?
According to the motto 2%YTD on a value bought around 1998 are then times x higher because so many shares were worth too little. I don't know if that's made sense?
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@ThiloM The article compares the MSCI World and the Quality Index for 5 and 10 years. In the fact sheets you can also find it for 3 or 1 year, for example. Otherwise, you can simply compare the performance yourself!
@DonkeyInvestor I'm not sure if that's quite right. Röhl once had a performancediagram where that became apparent. It was an interesting different view.
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@ThiloM Sorry, I just don't know what you're talking about. Maybe I'm too stupid. Or you are. 😅
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I am saving in the World ETF. I am considering switching to the Quality. It doesn't make sense to save in both, does it?
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@spellwan Yes, you can do that. The World as a safe bank and the Quality with the hope of a little extra return
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@DonkeyInvestor I can no longer keep track of all the ETFs. Do you have any other recommendations that will generate more returns?
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@spellwan No one can look into the future and know what the returns will be. We can only get an idea of what might happen in the future based on historical data.

I would strongly recommend that you invest the time to understand the ETFs that are relevant to you and make a decision yourself. And not to trust some jackass on the internet.
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@DonkeyInvestor Don't worry. I certainly won't do that. You can always ask or.
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@spellwan Yes. But if it already seems too difficult for you to choose a quality ETF and you are therefore looking for another one, that also says a lot
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@Burner I'm about to go from former follower to future blocker
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@Burner I hope your spoon slips into your muesli.
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@Burner I'll still give you a 🆘 on top 😁
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@Burner It's your own fault if you always call me an ugly ass
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@DonkeyInvestor he is jealous and sad that the gif was not a woman in a bikini
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