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ELTIFs - hot 🔥 or scrap ❌?

"Invest like the rich!!!" "Will the ELTIF be the new ETF??" "Finally private equity for the little ones!!!" are the lurid headlines at the moment. However, this is not about an IKEA outdoor armchair or the latest hot pick from the down-to-earth Flo Pharell, but about a fund category that is not even that new, but is nevertheless slowly coming into focus.


I thought I'd take a closer look at the whole thing so that you can save yourself some research - just in case you stumble across the term, as I did recently.


ELTIF stands for European Longterm Investment Fund. This fund structure is not a new star in the sky, but has been around since 2015, but was simply not really accessible to private investors until now. The range of different funds was rather meagre. The whole thing is only really interesting thanks to ELTIF 2.0, as this reform opens new doors for retail investors.


ELTIFs invest in private markets, i.e. in unlisted investments. For example, private or institutional investors can use ELTIFs to invest in companies that are not listed on the stock exchange (private equity, or PE for short), but they can also gain access to asset classes such as debt financing (private debt), infrastructure or real estate (e.g. hospitals, schools, etc.). There are therefore a wide variety of projects here. ELTIFs are strictly regulated and designed for long-term investments.


It's all about the money


Infrastructure projects and the like cost a pretty penny. The EU knows this. This gives companies the opportunity to access financing that is independent of banks. And private investors? They can look forward to access to eLiTäReN investments such as private equity, which were previously super exclusive and offered unrealistic returns.


Time for a few rap lines about PE:


Private equity, moving silently,

In the boardroom, making deals defiantly,

Cash flow, ROI, they calculate proficiently,

Investing capital, growing businesses efficiently


Requirements for the investment


Difficult, because minimum investments for private investors were generally possible from a bargain price of 10,000 euros, and you also had to have assets of 100,000 euros. This year's reform removes this minimum amount, as well as the asset hurdle and a number of other entry hurdles that previously made it very difficult for low-income earners like us to jump on the ELTIF bandwagon.


Opportunities


  • DiversificationIf you've done it all on the trading floor, why not explore the real economy outside the stock market? If you want to supplement your conventional investments, you may find what you are looking for here - especially if you are looking for alternatives to open-ended real estate funds.
  • Impact investing: Kind of reminds me of ESG funds - the desire to support projects that make a positive contribution to our environment and society. ELTIFs can make it easier to get started and provide a point of reference.


The risks


  • Illiquidity: Invested capital is tied up for the long term - around 8-10 years. Earlier exit? Not possible. Often this is only possible at a discount, because the providers are not obliged to redeem and we are not playing by the rules of the stock exchange here. (insert evil grin)
  • Lack of transparency: As nice as the EU may have imagined it to be - the reform unfortunately also leads to some disadvantages for small investors. For example, fund managers of ELTIFs may now be able to buy funds of funds instead of the previously required direct investments, which are not only complex and non-transparent, but also come with higher fees and costs.
  • Dilution: The reform raises the proportion of possible liquid investments to 45 percent (previously: maximum 30 percent). If you now buy a fund that has "PRIVATE MARKET" written large on its banner and it suddenly also has the opportunity to invest wildly in liquid investments...well. I wanted to put agile private equity investor #linkedintopvoice
    #forbes30under30 in my LinkedIn bio :( :( :( :(
  • Misleading promises of returns: When we look at private equity, we are often presented with beautiful returns that beat any world (take that, financial flow!). However, you should bear in mind that private equity funds work differently in their calculation of returns (internal rate of return - I'm currently struggling with this part) and are not fully invested from the outset. This distorts the actual return enormously, it is significantly lower than you first assume!


ELTIF vs ETF - confusingly similar?


Certainly not. They are very different products. ELTIFs are actively managed funds outside the stock exchange, while ETFs are passively managed products on the stock exchange. ELTIFs are based on management decisions, while ETFs track an index. They are only similar in name - you should pay attention here. I hereby vote in favor of renaming ELTIFs.


Conclusion


ELTIFs advertise with cool buzzwords. Unfortunately, in my opinion, there is a serious lack of implementation: actively managed, non-transparent fund structures and highly illiquid investments do not sound like the stock market investment of the century to me. The reform seems to make this problem even worse. But who knows - perhaps at some point in the future we will get to know more sensible offers that develop from a broader product range. At the moment, I find the whole thing unsuitable.


Lori product rating: ⭐ / ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ (respectfully)


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SOURCES:

(1) https://www.blackrock.com/de/professionelle-anleger/anlagestrategien/alternatives/european-long-term-investment-fund

(2) https://klimavest.de/de/wissen/ratgeber/eltif/

(3) https://www.capital.de/geld-versicherungen/eltif-fonds--so-funktioniert-geld-investieren-wie-die-reichen-34311470.html

(4) https://www.scopegroup.com/dam/jcr:9b69aff6-a8d5-45ac-871f-8521633cedb1/Scope%20ELTIF%20Studie%20final.pdf

(5) https://www.private-banking-magazin.de/investieren-abseits-der-boerse-was-experten-von-der-eltif-reform-erwarten/


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Read and approved. @ccf is no longer available. But there's a little picture of me: 🦝
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@DividendenWaschbaer nice picture, do you have a new camera? 🤓
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@Lorena This is the new raccoon pic 7
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Unfortunately, I can only contribute one thing: I have heard from many larger investors, some analysts and fund managers that private equity deals are usually not as attractive and lucrative as many people think. The real estate business is the only area where good money has been made.

But I'm happy to be convinced otherwise 😅
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@Gerit I think the same. There is a lot of embellishment 🎀
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You can only warn every 0815 private investor about this. I think the average investor in the PE and VC game even loses money. Really only the top x percentile get a 10x or more return, if I remember correctly from a podcast. I really only see disadvantages. You won't get into the really good deals anyway, because they're already reserved for the usual suspects. Definitely not a good form of investment for private investors
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@Krush82 I completely agree :)
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Now I feel like writing an article again 🚀 Retail doesn't get the cool products from the PE sector anyway and are still reserved for (ultra) high net worth individuals. Just pop the cash into Blackstone or KKR shares and that's that.

The article gets 4.5/5 🦍 from me. GaLiGreen
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@KapriolenCapital Ultra high net worth individuals like me exactly. Yes, write something again! GaLiGrüZuRü
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@Lorena Your collection of Loricoins counts $NET
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Finally, the very real @Lorena is back at the start 🙏
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@Herdd Hallo 🥹 naaaaa
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@leveragegrinding what does @FrauManu say ? I have not read it
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@leveragegrinding I have now read it. I'm missing a few facts and figures. For example, what is advertised, what is realistic, where does the difference come from, ... Information on the costs (TER) would be great and examples (are there also sectors, regionally / globally controlled, ...). It's a bit half-baked for me (sorry @Lorena ) but has potential and is imho the first post here on the subject. That's why I'm adding it to #gqevergreens 👍
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@DonkeyInvestor I'll add your comments to the article✨ merci 🙏 in the next few days
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Stark.
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Your hibernation lasted a damn long time! Nice to read something from you 🥰
Thanks for the post, one of the few posts worth reading lately.
@ccf has been abolished, but I'll give it to you anyway 💐
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@FrauManu I was just about to send the ccf and then I read your comment. What happened there? :(
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@Dr27589 https://getqu.in/rl57Yp/
Below my comment is a statement from customer service
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Thanks for the effort!
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A friend of mine started with PE and told me something about it. He was totally enthusiastic. I then informed myself superficially about it and came to a similar conclusion (although not nearly as expertly as you)! Top article! I suppose if I ever want to get into PE, I'd rather do it through shares in investment companies.
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@SchlaubiSchlumpf I also suspect... as a small person you will probably never get to the top companies anyway, there is certainly a lot of underhand haggling going on
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Very well prepared, dear @Lorena 🚀 Thank you very much.
I had also looked into PE ETFs before, but not yet into ELTIFs.
But I've come to the same conclusion as you:
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...or as the Rhinelander defines it in his Article 6: Kenne mer nit, bruche mer nit, fott domet 😎

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@Stullen-Portfolio then you're ahead of me, but I still have to read up on PE ETFs 😊
Rhinelanders are always right 🤝
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Thank you for the summary
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Very strong! This is exactly what something like this should look like. I'm very happy about your contribution 😁👍
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When will the song be on Spotify?
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@SharkAce Release at midnight 🔥
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@Lorena I'm already looking forward to making my ears happy with it.
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