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Fundmanger vs Mad Man

I have the 3xGTAA $DE000LS9U6W1 (+0.5%) from @Epi with the iMGP DBi Managed Futures ETF $DBMFE (+1.28%) compared.


Since both products are trend followers, I assumed that they would behave in roughly the same way, with the difference that the 3xGTAA is probably 3x as volatile.


It turned out to be 4 to 5 times as volatile. 😅

(looking at 1 year, unfortunately both products have not been around that long)


So if the volatility of 3xGTAA is too high for you, but you still want to have a trend-following strategy in your portfolio, you can simply add $DBMFE (+1.28%) to reduce the vola.

Possibly, you can even rebalance in strong dropdowns... just a thought. 😘

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4%pa vs 40%pa - I'm happy to accept 5x vola. 🤷
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@Epi Me too. 😘
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I'll be at $DBMFE soon 🙂
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@RaphGM nice

you see @Epi, I'm already converting the first ones to trend following, just like you wanted. 😘
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@TotallyLost Very good, a first step. 👍

But it still takes a little bit to convert. 😁
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God damn it. You have Premium
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@Alpalaka yes... I wanted to try it out and swapped the Extra-ETF subscription for the Getquin...

But after 3 months I can say that I'll probably go back to Extra-ETF if there's a decent discount on Black Friday... it's really expensive as standard. 😅
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@TotallyLost How much does the subscription to Extra-ETF cost?
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@TotallyLost 89.99 € per year 💸
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@TotallyLost hah. Parqet is at 87,99€
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@Alpalaka pah, everything for low earners!
You can get the getquin Wealth subscription for a mere €149.99 - people are scrambling to get one of these subscriptions.

🤫 I think they were even sold out recently.
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@Alpalaka Parqet is free if you reach at least the "Silver" rank at ING
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@fastlane Wouldn't that be at least 6 trades x 14.9€ fees?
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However, the performance so far speaks "slightly" in favor of @Epi
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@GHF But the Vola! 🫪
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@GHF The question is why you should add trend followers to your portfolio.
The 3xGTA is an uncorrelated source of return, but it can sometimes halve in one day.

Classic CTAs are more suitable for bringing stability to the portfolio.
Due to their low correlation, they are easy to rebalance with equities.

In essence, they do similar things, except that the CTAs hold more assets at the same time and are not so highly diversified.
This also reduces the tail risk.

But yes, if you are looking to optimize returns, then the 3xGTAA is the clear winner.
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Huh, this thing has vola? I was totally surprised last time, because I'm up about 50% after a year. Upsi
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