Devils Advocate: there are millions being fed by the welfare state who can work.
Now come up with a state budget for vacations, you're still doing well.
There are 25 rather 30 days of normal vacation here for every working person. A luxury compared to other countries.
Sorry, complete nonsense and before someone comes with a right/left club, I grew up in a simple working class family myself.
Rather reduce the whole state apparatus significantly, abolish bureaucracy and regulation / subsidies / citizen's income.
An unconditional basic income of €500-1,000 for everyone, no matter who, just don't starve to death and that's my opinion. 🤓 Yes, even those who work get it.
So gebug Stammtischpöbeln 😂
Now come up with a state budget for vacations, you're still doing well.
There are 25 rather 30 days of normal vacation here for every working person. A luxury compared to other countries.
Sorry, complete nonsense and before someone comes with a right/left club, I grew up in a simple working class family myself.
Rather reduce the whole state apparatus significantly, abolish bureaucracy and regulation / subsidies / citizen's income.
An unconditional basic income of €500-1,000 for everyone, no matter who, just don't starve to death and that's my opinion. 🤓 Yes, even those who work get it.
So gebug Stammtischpöbeln 😂
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@Papiertiger At least for Germany, the millions don't really apply, because unfortunately we have a lot of people on social welfare who should be retired, but that's a different issue.
What else do you think about the initial question?
Are vacations, tobacco products and the like a luxury or basic necessities?
What else do you think about the initial question?
Are vacations, tobacco products and the like a luxury or basic necessities?
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•@Staatsmann Luxury. I see mobility and social participation more as basic needs.
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@Papiertiger In the big cities, a basic income of €1000 won't get you very far. It might just cover the rent.
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@Metis Not everyone has to live in big cities.
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@Papiertiger But that's mainly because of work. Otherwise, you'll quickly have a problem with mobility in smaller cities and will inevitably spend the money you save on rent on public transport or a car.
No matter what you do.
No matter what you do.
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@Metis If you work in a big city. Minijob 500€ or full-time minimum wage ~13€ h /=~1.500€ net. + 500 to 1,000€ basic income, that will probably be enough....
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@Papiertiger And do you know how many people are already struggling to get by on a €1,500 salary, especially when looking for an apartment?
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@Metis Yes, of course. But that's just throwing smoke and mirrors.
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@Papiertiger So social participation in the sense of leisure activities (museum, theater, sports club, etc.)?
Or what do you have in mind there?
Or what do you have in mind there?
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@Staatsmann Yes. D-ticket and museum, sports club etc. In my opinion, the problem is not availability, but a jumble of special offers here and there. Anyone who has ever dealt with the SGB, subsidy, here and there offers, only realizes that it is completely confusing.
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