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Since it hit me again today and I had again countless postings on my clearing accounts ( 96😂)


It is in the year 2022

And you are happy about your investment in one or more Reit(s). Dividends are diligently trickling into your clearing account every month. You are the king of dividends.


A few months later. Shock STORNO on the clearing account. All dividends gone! What happened? The clearing account in the minus -> panic? No.


Why are dividends cancelled?


The negative dividend posting is related to the so-called reclassification. In simple terms, a recalculation of the dividend takes place because it is not announced until the beginning of the following fiscal year how the dividends paid are divided for tax purposes. (Since this information is not available until the following year, the recalculation or reclassification does not take place until then.


So the company has to reallocate the money from dividends and capital returns, so to speak, after the close of the fiscal year. (For Canadian and US companies, this usually takes place annually).


The correction of the dividends is done as a "delta correction" and has no influence on the annual tax certificate of the previous year. Although dividends from the previous year may be affected by the measure. This may result in a tax disadvantage depending on the use of the personal allowance.


When will the corrected dividends be credited?


Normally, a few days after the cancellation, the dividend is paid again in a recalculated amount. This can result in several postings, as each payment made is corrected individually. In the example with me today within a few hours.


Where can I find information on tax recalculation?

On the websites of the companies you can usually find information about the recalculation in the Investor Relations section or under Dividends. Just have a look at the IR page of the riding of your choice.


Dividend cancellation and tax allowance

Regarding the personal tax allowance, there may be disadvantages. For example, if the tax-free allowance was used in the previous year, but has already been used up in the following year, the regular taxes will apply. (The tax-free amount used in the previous year could therefore be reduced retroactively).


Depending on the constellation, it is therefore possible that this chargeback means that part of the tax allowance was not used retroactively in the previous year and the tax allowance for the current year is used up, even though the payment was actually made in the previous year. What does @DerSteuerberater about this?



Do I have to take action?

As a rule, you do not need to take any further action. The broker takes care that everything is tax compliant.


PS thanks to Lisa

Source:

https://aktiengram.de/stornierte-dividenden-bei-reits/?fbclid=PAAabFruoFpHv2X6NzyEaFM73ObF0ZyT4w08Z7OBoRfR9_JFUGxRQLbUW4C8I


You don't have to know everything but only where it is written.


Have a nice weekend ✅


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@GoDividend then I have to fulfill my duty 😅 With your statement you are absolutely right. When the dividend is recalculated, it can happen that the saver's lump sum is charged twice 😅 The reason behind this is the actual worldwide practice in tax law, that if a year is over, then nothing more can change in the events 😂 Only the stupid Yanks with your Reit rules do not make it with 🫠 Our savings amount is namely destroyed by the recalculation of the withholding tax. The bank assumes that you will get it back. But you usually do not do that and is therefore taxed twice and rightly so. (PP=personal bad luck) You can now find how you want, but the problem is not only we Germans 😁 the Reit dividends are namely only advance payments and are taxed as profit distributions, therefore 🤷🏼 If you now have many Reitanteile, it can also come to that, the Sparerpauschbetrag is completely ausgewipt 😂 There are solutions, but I let me pay 😈😈 No joke aside, most will not itch, because they get so few dividends or if you earn so much on the Reits, you switch to a broker who does not withhold tax, that would be for us Germans a foreign or unregulated broker.
Or one would like to let off steam a bit in the American tax system and submits an American tax return in order to adjust the withholding tax, which is the problem for us here in Germany.
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Maybe it's important to mention that you should always have some money in the clearing account when you invest in REITS? Precisely because such a minus on the clearing account can quickly become expensive if the dividends are canceled and "booked out"? Or does it not matter... I can not imagine. Otherwise, I already know why, despite all the temptation, the model of this class of shares is too complicated for me and I am not invested. Thanks for the qualitative contribution though. 🙌👀
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Could you explain the term delta correction in more detail? As far as I know, delta is the euro amount between buying and selling. Or are the cost prices then changed upwards or downwards?
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I have long read into the broad topic #Reits. Thanks for the info on this. I did not know so actually yet.
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Does this affect all US companies that have tax advantages and distribute 90% of their profits, including BDCs?
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