1. why should getquin also allow export and thus make it easier for you to go to other platforms? Makes 0 business sense.
And if you think about it for 5 minutes, you will also know why a CSV import is not as simple as you think.
It works more badly than right on many other platforms, but the main thing is that it is offered.
2. have you ever looked at what real-time data costs in terms of money? In addition to salaries, rent, software licenses, marketing and the like, the 15 million from 2022 doesn't add up to much. (And before the rumor starts: In startups, you generally don't get enough from your income. You work 60 hours a week or more out of passion, because you generally want to achieve something. Presumably, every employee in startups in the regular economy could get 20-30% more for the work of a drone...)
3. as always with new functions, something like this will quickly die down. Especially when people lose interest. What was it like with benchmarking? The first 14 days lots of pictures and now hardly any. TTWROR? Same game.
4. why do you have the For You Feed if you don't use it?
There are filters. Unsubscribe from NVIDIA and you won't see any more of it.
5. how do you know how the algos for the feed work?
Even @Kundenservice has already confirmed that SOS has a negative impact on reach in order to reduce shitposting.
6. see above about the 15 million, which is a joke and won't last long.
Besides, ideas are all well and good, but I can also tell you from experience: Even if you develop functions for users, customers will complain until the place is on fire. DeepDive came out: "Mimimi Flossbach von Storch is missing."
Benchmarking came out "Mimimi, but I want charting tools".
In general, I always find the demand for any TA functions for getquin absurd. There are so many good providers for this, so why should getquin copy something when others can already do it?
And if you think about it for 5 minutes, you will also know why a CSV import is not as simple as you think.
It works more badly than right on many other platforms, but the main thing is that it is offered.
2. have you ever looked at what real-time data costs in terms of money? In addition to salaries, rent, software licenses, marketing and the like, the 15 million from 2022 doesn't add up to much. (And before the rumor starts: In startups, you generally don't get enough from your income. You work 60 hours a week or more out of passion, because you generally want to achieve something. Presumably, every employee in startups in the regular economy could get 20-30% more for the work of a drone...)
3. as always with new functions, something like this will quickly die down. Especially when people lose interest. What was it like with benchmarking? The first 14 days lots of pictures and now hardly any. TTWROR? Same game.
4. why do you have the For You Feed if you don't use it?
There are filters. Unsubscribe from NVIDIA and you won't see any more of it.
5. how do you know how the algos for the feed work?
Even @Kundenservice has already confirmed that SOS has a negative impact on reach in order to reduce shitposting.
6. see above about the 15 million, which is a joke and won't last long.
Besides, ideas are all well and good, but I can also tell you from experience: Even if you develop functions for users, customers will complain until the place is on fire. DeepDive came out: "Mimimi Flossbach von Storch is missing."
Benchmarking came out "Mimimi, but I want charting tools".
In general, I always find the demand for any TA functions for getquin absurd. There are so many good providers for this, so why should getquin copy something when others can already do it?
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@Goldmann85 Ma nn wanted to sleep now haha^^ Thanks for the detailed feedback. :-D I'll be happy to get back to you:
1.) Intentionally restricting exports makes no business sense. Would you have a cell phone contract on which you pay 100 euros when you switch? There is also no increased friction (switching costs) here - since the basic data (via CSV) comes from me anyway^^
2) Since I was employed by a major bank, I know what live access costs. Also what customers are charged for it. In a startup, you don't work for the salary, but for the shareholding - and its hoped-for disproportionate development. Especially in Switzerland, as capital gains are not taxed.
3) Fair point. We'll see! :-D
4) Turning off the For You only partially hinders the flow (imo). I'd also love to broaden my horizons - so I don't just want to mess around in For You.
5) Feeling. But thank you for the input, I wasn't aware of the statement from KS. 👍
6) Well, what I'm looking for, for example, is an "all-in-one" provider. I'm aware that there are some, but I don't want to maintain several platforms? I find the simple requirement that an offer "What do you want?" should also be served within a reasonable period of time. Or just leave it alone and post and update a roadmap here and there. :-)
Thanks again for the exchange. 👍
1.) Intentionally restricting exports makes no business sense. Would you have a cell phone contract on which you pay 100 euros when you switch? There is also no increased friction (switching costs) here - since the basic data (via CSV) comes from me anyway^^
2) Since I was employed by a major bank, I know what live access costs. Also what customers are charged for it. In a startup, you don't work for the salary, but for the shareholding - and its hoped-for disproportionate development. Especially in Switzerland, as capital gains are not taxed.
3) Fair point. We'll see! :-D
4) Turning off the For You only partially hinders the flow (imo). I'd also love to broaden my horizons - so I don't just want to mess around in For You.
5) Feeling. But thank you for the input, I wasn't aware of the statement from KS. 👍
6) Well, what I'm looking for, for example, is an "all-in-one" provider. I'm aware that there are some, but I don't want to maintain several platforms? I find the simple requirement that an offer "What do you want?" should also be served within a reasonable period of time. Or just leave it alone and post and update a roadmap here and there. :-)
Thanks again for the exchange. 👍
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@GeldGenie 1. some brokers do not offer CSV export at all. So why should getquin, for example, allow you to retrieve the full history in Open Banking, then export the data as CSV to make it easier for you to onboard with another tracker that doesn't offer a connection?
Just makes 0 sense from a business perspective.
Just as the average user might want to move away from Google Sheets and the like because it's easier to use a programmed product that is being developed instead of sitting down and doing it themselves.
How big is the target group for people who want to set up a tracking Excel themselves and have the patience and skills?
And how big is the group that is too lazy to do this and then falls back on solutions such as getquin?
6. we won't get the jack of all trades, because it's not economical to set up a product too broadly. Just like car manufacturers, software providers also have their target group.
Why should getquin, for example, start messing with TradingView, which A has a completely different budget, B has completely different experience and C has a completely different market position in its niche.
In the same way, TradingView, for example, will not suddenly start building a comprehensive dividend and ETF tracker.
I see the feedback posts more as collective contributions to get some information. Not "Ah, 75% of what is mentioned here, we will build in the next quarter".
Honestly, I always find more than half of the posts laughable and I can see in advance that nothing like this will be built.
e.g. Timeless Integration
How many customers do they have? How many of them would even be interested in an external tracker? How high are the development costs vs. the expected increase in sales?
Then you might have Timeless and then comes Brickfact and so on.
So hundreds of providers for alternative assets, because people ask for it and most users don't go for it, which might make sense for many, but only for themselves.
Those who then agree tend to agree because they think "Yes, that would be nice" and not "I need it and would pay for it".
All the broker connections, which are offered for free by the way, getquin costs money for every user and every connection. Regardless of whether the person buys Premium or not.
Just makes 0 sense from a business perspective.
Just as the average user might want to move away from Google Sheets and the like because it's easier to use a programmed product that is being developed instead of sitting down and doing it themselves.
How big is the target group for people who want to set up a tracking Excel themselves and have the patience and skills?
And how big is the group that is too lazy to do this and then falls back on solutions such as getquin?
6. we won't get the jack of all trades, because it's not economical to set up a product too broadly. Just like car manufacturers, software providers also have their target group.
Why should getquin, for example, start messing with TradingView, which A has a completely different budget, B has completely different experience and C has a completely different market position in its niche.
In the same way, TradingView, for example, will not suddenly start building a comprehensive dividend and ETF tracker.
I see the feedback posts more as collective contributions to get some information. Not "Ah, 75% of what is mentioned here, we will build in the next quarter".
Honestly, I always find more than half of the posts laughable and I can see in advance that nothing like this will be built.
e.g. Timeless Integration
How many customers do they have? How many of them would even be interested in an external tracker? How high are the development costs vs. the expected increase in sales?
Then you might have Timeless and then comes Brickfact and so on.
So hundreds of providers for alternative assets, because people ask for it and most users don't go for it, which might make sense for many, but only for themselves.
Those who then agree tend to agree because they think "Yes, that would be nice" and not "I need it and would pay for it".
All the broker connections, which are offered for free by the way, getquin costs money for every user and every connection. Regardless of whether the person buys Premium or not.
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@Goldmann85 Briefly on 3. or the coins
If interest wanes, no one will buy more coins in the store. Does this miss the target because the coins no longer generate revenue?
I somehow don't see the point of the coins
If interest wanes, no one will buy more coins in the store. Does this miss the target because the coins no longer generate revenue?
I somehow don't see the point of the coins
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