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Topic: Capital gains in the tax return 💸

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Final boss: tax return! 😈 (all half as wild 😇)


The year is over, the raclette from New Year's Eve is heavy on the stomach and the booming headache isn't all the fault of the firecrackers. 🥂

You check your broker and realize that they have sent you the tax certificate 📑 for the previous year. You greedily click through the mailbox and, after downloading it eagerly, you discover good news: investment income: €4,200.00!

But what is that? Savers' lump sum? Capital gains tax? And then it happens: you start thinking about the next tax return!
😖


Fortunately, the raclette in you doesn't decide to spontaneously rally against the direction of travel 🤢as you know quite calmly that you've read the following post! 😅


According to § 32d EStG, capital gains are generally subject to a separate tax rate. This is 25% for taxpayers who are not subject to church tax. The capital gains tax is a so-called "withholding tax"as the tax is withheld and paid at source (simplified: by your bank). 💡

Every taxpayer is entitled to an "allowance", the so-called "saver's lump sum" of currently € 1,000, which covers all costs in connection with income from capital assets in the tax return. 📊


There are two ways to use this allowance:


Option 1 🔵

Tax return at the end of the year.

In your tax return, you enter all investment income, capital gains tax and solidarity surcharges from the tax certificate for the past assessment period. When calculating your income tax, the tax-free amount of 1,000 is then taken into account, which reduces your tax liability.


Variant 2 🔴

Send an exemption order to the bank.

Banks are generally obliged to withhold tax at source. You can inform your bank with an exemption order from this obligation! 😲 But be careful! The amount of this exemption order is limited to the amount of the saver's lump sum (i.e. 1,000) across all your building society savings contracts, custodian banks, etc.! So make sure that you never give your bank too high an exemption order! As soon as you have earned capital gains from which no tax has been withheld due to the exemption order, you are obligedto declare this investment income (or distribute exemption orders) in your tax return! 🛑


Okay! I'm sure you've understood all that so far. But now you're thinking: That's totally unfair! As a student with a mini-job and a few thousand euros in capital gains, I have the same tax rate as a top earner! 😪


✨✨ Section 32d para. 6 EStG - favorable tax treatment! ✨✨


With the income tax return, every taxpayer can apply for a favorable tax assessment! And the best thing is: this is even calculated by the tax office! 🤝


It first calculates how high your personal income tax rate is. 📈 Thanks to the progressive income tax rate, the personal income tax rate (average tax rate) for taxable income up to around 38,000 is less than 25%! 😄 If this is the case, your investment income will be subject to your personal tax rate, which is below 25%!


Calculation example: 🤓

Student, 22 years young, mini-job in a bar and €2,500 investment income. Exemption order was not issued, so that the full 25% capital gains tax (€625) and 5.5% solidarity surcharge (€34.37) were withheld.


The basic tax-free allowance according to §32a EStG is 10 908 in 2023 (up to this amount no taxes are due). The personal tax rate for our student is therefore 0%! 😯


So if our student does not submit a tax return for 2023 he will lose a whole 659.37! 😥 Don't be that student! 😏


Do you want more calculation examples? For example, with a higher income and a partial exemption order?


🏁🏁🏁🏁 End of post! 🏁🏁🏁


I'm sure this isn't news to many of the readers. But if I've been able to help a handful of people a little further with this, I'm already happy!


I look forward to your reactions!

👍 - I already know everything!

🦍 - Roughly knew, but still learned something!

🆘 - Huh?! That's possible?

🚀 - I evade everything anyway!



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Come on... I'll help out a bit for the algorithm.@DonkeyInvestor @Simpson @Der_Dividenden_Monteur @GoDividend @christian @Staatsmann Even if it's all old hat for us... don't let the youngsters down. 🚀
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@InvestmentPapa have you read it and is it true? Please answer briefly. Three words maximum. Can you manage that?
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@DonkeyInvestor In short: Yes is enough for a beginner and therefore perfectly ok. Since here no tax advice can and may be made, this is good for the start 😉
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@ccf young investors should bookmark.
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Super post ☺️👍 Good chances for 25€ newcomer wellcome bonus ☺️👍and maybe even at ccf although there is very tough competition 💪😁 I personally hate paperwork and do the tax return at Lohnsteuerhilfs Verein 😁👍
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Have me as a student not yet so intensively beschäfft with it, because I had not really what to get back anyway 😅 But a good overview that will help me vllt times 😁
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As a former tax law student, I must extremely praise this post! Very well summarized 👍🏼 Because the topic is very complicated at first moment 😂
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Correct and important! Do your tax return and get your money back! ☝️
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So my brokers always take forever to send 😵‍💫 there I must already have a proper intoxication that I have until then still after-effects 😄
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Is it also ok to set an allowance for the German neo-broker (700€) and then declare the overnight account from the Netherlands in the tax return (for the rest)? So a mixture of variant 1 and 2?
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@Greenery Of course, that is also possible. In the tax return, everything will then be "smoothed out" to the maximum tax-free amount.
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Thanks for the explanation! Since your 1st contribution but almost slipped through my fingers :-) @ccf
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Thanks for the explanation, which passed the @InvestmentPapa foundation test and can only be good 🚀
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@ccf Fortunately, I paid a lot of foreign withholding tax this year so I hardly had to pay any capital tax😉
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@RealRose hm. I don't quite follow you. In principle, foreign investment income is also taxable in Germany (Annex KAP, mandatory information!). The taxes paid abroad can then be partially taken into account as an "advance payment" in the domestic declaration.
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@Aktien-Joe The withholding tax settlement pot has been offset against the capital tax, unfortunately it is still not possible to insert screenshots as an answer to better illustrate this.
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I don't think our student has made any profits this year 🫣
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Until now, I understood the exemption order to mean that I didn't have to declare anything on my tax return until I had made a profit of more than €801 from the sale of shares/ETFs or dividends (taken together)
As soon as I make a profit of €802, for example, I am taxed on €1.
In addition, my broker (Trade Republic) does everything for me anyway, which is why I have nothing to do with it anyway. 🤔
And with Trade Republic it is probably enough to enter the exemption request in the corresponding line within the app (801), or do I have to write a note and send it by post TR?

Did I understand that correctly? Please correct 🥺
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@SirFortune You *must* declare how much investment income was exempt from tax on the basis of an exemption order. You *can* declare investment income from which 25% tax has been withheld, and *should* you always do so (see favorable tax treatment).

I don't know what TR does for you and how TR wants to have the exemption order, because I use smartbroker ;)

Hope that answers your questions :)
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