1Yr·

I don't think there is much more growth in the position.

Will be reallocated to $VDEV (+0.22%)
$TDIV (+0.02%)
$SEDY (-0.65%)
$BTO (-0.51%)
$NSRGY (-0.71%) .

28.09

BAE Systems

Sold x343 at €14.85

€5,093.55

149.84%

13 Comments

Kate🦋@Iwamoto

1Yr

What is the basis for your assumption that BAE's growth is over?

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Marty G.@Der_Geldsammler

1Yr

I would also be very interested in this, especially against the background of the possible Taiwan conflict and also another attempt at Russian "territorial expansion" towards the end of this decade - according to current speculation

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Waldemar@Wowa83

1Yr

@Iwanowitsch I think that things will soon calm down in Ukraine and that the share price will therefore tend to move sideways. Fantasy is gone...
@Der_Geldsammler I see it a little differently! I think Russia will be more cautious next time. And nothing will happen to Taiwan. China is also aware of what is happening in Ukraine...
But as always, nobody knows how it will turn out in the end! 😅

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Marty G.@Der_Geldsammler

1Yr

I go along with your idea regarding Ukraine, there will be an (interim) solution here, whether it will be sustainable - who knows. That Russia will act more cautiously afterwards; why should this happen? I would be interested to hear your reasoning here. Personally, I tend to think that the impact on life there is calculated and that the effects of the sanctions will cause profound shortages. Historically, the population is "used" to suffering, military training in schools is being expanded and Russia is more or less independent in terms of resources; if a deficit does arise, China and India are still available. China: 2027 is the centenary "anniversary" of the People's Liberation Army, by then Taiwan should have been conquered for a united China, Xi's indirect statement. The only thing no one can predict is whether it will happen in 2026 or 2027 and if so, what the outcome will be. Basically, China will have seen from Ukraine what an unplanned process can look like. There are many scenarios, progression models etc. - But I can't imagine that nothing will happen. This may be interesting to read: https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/2023/december/war-2026-phase-iii-scenario

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But T.@But_the_Stock_Picked_Me

1Yr

@Der_Geldsammler Interesting topic. I think the share price development in the defense sector will slow down. But I believe that BAE Systems and, for example, $LDO Leonardo or $HO Thales are broadly positioned. They will also be interesting for aerospace, drones and security technology.

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Waldemar@Wowa83

1Yr

@Der_Geldsammler more cautious because Russia could not afford such a war again. They are already planning to spend 32% of their 2025 budget on defense. War slows down growth and I think they know that by now. Hence my assumption.

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Marty G.@Der_Geldsammler

1Yr

This could of course lead to a termination for the time being.

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Liebesspieler@Liebesspieler

1Yr

Strong return, congratulations!

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Waldemar@Wowa83

1Yr

@Liebesspieler originally bought because of the high divi for a defense company. Then came Russia...
Now I'm switching back to a somewhat broader diversification and higher divi!

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Luke@Knugs

1Yr

I am a fan of high dividends but there are some very risky stocks in the ETF.

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Waldemar@Wowa83

1Yr

@Knugs Yes, that's why the payout is so high.

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Luke@Knugs

1Yr

@Wowa83 But some are simply garbage. Continuous loss in value with already reduced dividends and still over 100% payout. It may have been different back then, but they are still in there

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Waldemar@Wowa83

1Yr

@Knugs above 100% is not a requirement for the ETF. Otherwise the stock will be out next year. You're right, but with 100 positions in the ETF it's ok for me. Or do you have an alternative?

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