@RoronoaZoro Now the question is whether to curse them or say respect sow cleverly done 🤣🤣🤣 best both 🤣 is like everywhere in the world, screw the small to make the big even richer 🤣 by refinancing a third, they have already hedged against a price drop of 30 percent. Simply only clever

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Zoro@RoronoaZoro

4Yr

@MAXICONRAD Works just also not with everyone, but with those with whom it works I can only say respect :D

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Starwurst13@Starwurst13

4Yr

Better leave the fingers away...At least for now I think

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Code & Capital@Codeandcapital

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As always, I do not buy shares directly at the IPO

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GreenWash@GreenWash

4Yr

Can you short an IPO right away? It's always the same. 🔮

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Maxi Conrad@MAXICONRAD

4Yr

@GreenWash TR had nothing yet

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GHF@GHF

4Yr

No, too cyclical, too bad market environment and an IPO is always a bit touchy.

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Derebete@Derebete

4Yr

here, not directly at the beginning but from December at the latest

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Maxi Conrad@MAXICONRAD

4Yr

@Derebete Why only from December?

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Derebete@Derebete

4Yr

@MAXICONRAD at the latest... just want to look at the beginning first, think the valuation is ok, just slightly afraid that it is too hyped and draw makes no sense to me because fee too high... because I wait until trade Republic leads the share and look how the share runs in the first month

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Meier@M-e-i-e-r

4Yr

Unfortunately not told that also get what 🤔

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Maxi Conrad@MAXICONRAD

4Yr

@MeName I also think they are too expensive. And the cyclical aspect also makes a lot of sense! I'm curious

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Fuller🔱@Longstoryshort

4Yr

@MeName and what do you think is a favorable kgv for Porsche?

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metizor@metizor

4Yr

@MeName Undervalued at IPO would also be fundamentally illogical, as the company would have miscalculated and gone public too "cheaply". Of course, there are still exaggerations.

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Fuller🔱@Longstoryshort

4Yr

@MeName with the current valuation is pretty much the same as the kgv of 40 from Ferrari 😬

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Christian@Christiano

4Yr

@Longstoryshort How did you arrive at a P/E ratio of 40?

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Zwenn@RoboAdvisor

4Yr

@Christiano I wonder the same thing, P/E ratio should be around 15 🤔

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SC 🎅@Dividendenjaeger

4Yr

@MeName I would still be careful with that statement. If someone is interested in Porsche then they should buy the holding company.
It is more diversified and has several companies in its portfolio.
In addition, the holding company is the holder of the most Porsche shares.
According to your statement, it has a low P/E ratio of 4, so you can buy it. But I'm not really looking at the P/E ratio. Rather the price 🥇 per share.

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Derebete@Derebete

4Yr

@MeName the thing is, the kgv of 15 at Porsche is not even that exaggerated if you look at Ferrari.... Both carmakers have high margins and both carmakers are less cyclical due to the luxury class....

Ferrari, by the way, has a kgv of around 40

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Derebete@Derebete

4Yr

@Dividendenjaeger the holding company is not such a bad idea, at least to start with, but unfortunately it entails the rat's tail of also being invested in vw...

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SC 🎅@Dividendenjaeger

4Yr

@Derebete You're right about everything you've written, but now comes the classic 😜😂. You are also broadly diversified due to the companies that are in the holding company. Whether VW, Bugatti or Ducati. The vehicles are still selling very well. So I don't see a problem there with what VW is currently facing.
Porsche will bring many things with it. The vehicles will sell very well and the clientele that buys the vehicles will keep buying new ones. That's a promise.

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Maxi Conrad@MAXICONRAD

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@BASS-T I don't think it's going to be great. It's so hyped I don't know if that makes sense.

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