Why do you think that the "new internal combustion engines" from Hyundai and Kia are superior to "all others"? What vehicles are you comparing them with? I am professionally and privately involved in the automotive sector and this is the first time I have heard this statement, hence the question. I've driven a lot of vehicles, but none of the more recent brands mentioned (latest vehicle: Sportage 2016).
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@KevinC Above all, the almost full equipment included in the base price (and the resulting price-performance ratio) leads across all age groups (18-54) in my circle of acquaintances to a new popularity of the two brands, for example, compared to all brands of VW.
In addition, almost all vehicles from Hyundai and Kia are now very sleekly designed, no Opel keeps up, + used car prices especially for the sporty Hyundai models are very high (hardly any loss in value the first 30t km) I'm talking here especially about the sportier variants, which are also in contrast to the brands of the VW Group real sports variants of the basic models. There's quite a few YouTube videos, recommend the i20n comparison with the Polo GTI from JP Performance :) New purchases that I know of (from different "bubbles" without knowing about each other) were in the last 2 years: Kia: Niro / stinger / Kia Rio gt line X2 / (used: proceed gt line) Hyundai: I20n / i20 / i30n / ioniq 5 Others: Seat Leon Peugeot 208 / 508
In addition, almost all vehicles from Hyundai and Kia are now very sleekly designed, no Opel keeps up, + used car prices especially for the sporty Hyundai models are very high (hardly any loss in value the first 30t km) I'm talking here especially about the sportier variants, which are also in contrast to the brands of the VW Group real sports variants of the basic models. There's quite a few YouTube videos, recommend the i20n comparison with the Polo GTI from JP Performance :) New purchases that I know of (from different "bubbles" without knowing about each other) were in the last 2 years: Kia: Niro / stinger / Kia Rio gt line X2 / (used: proceed gt line) Hyundai: I20n / i20 / i30n / ioniq 5 Others: Seat Leon Peugeot 208 / 508
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@leveragegrinding Ah okay. So it was more about the overall concept than purely the engine. I misunderstood. Visually, I have to say that I no longer like most makes so much, since they have visually approached the CW values accordingly. Feel in this respect the German premium manufacturers as simply too expensive. But they go to 90% as company cars over the counter anyway... I personally drive Octavia. Bought with 100tkm (3 years old, 14,000€) now after almost 4 years and 265 tkm still super satisfied. Meanwhile, I think the 500tkm would be nice to reach. Regarding new cars, I think that many manufacturers also no longer target the private customer. I have an above-average income, but even a new Passat is quickly a net annual salary. N Bulli goes to the 100k...
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•@KevinC but if he disappears after 3 years for 4t€ less the deal is good :) and among other things that's why it still works, otherwise no one would buy new.
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@leveragegrinding I find honestly also very strange... if I get a car for 30k as a year car and for 34 new (in the Bulli halt 90 / 94k), I would opt for the new. That way I eliminate the risk that the car had a bad previous owner, wasn't cold and warmed up, etc. Would take an annual car for 20% less at most. So far I do best with 3-4 year old used for 50-60% off. However, the prices of used cars are currently really blatantly exaggerated and such deals can hardly be found. Supply and demand just ... will mMn also still drag at least a year until it relaxes.
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