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Investment strategy Ü65 - Your help


Moin dear #community,

for some time I have been concerned with the investments of my father (65), who will retire next year.


According to his generation, he has without a clear strategy a wild portfolio of #einzelaktien and very expensive #fonds of all kinds heaped together on the recommendation of third parties. We have sold a part of it in the last months, so that now we have #cash in the amount of approx. 100k has become free.💸


Since I am not at all familiar with investment strategies in this age bracket, I wanted to ask for your input.

As a retiree, how would you invest the freed up cash?


My thoughts on different classes are as follows:

  • Stocks/#etf: Possibly currently overheated and at his age you have to consider the holding period. But a part could perhaps be put into a distributing ETF or individual #dividendenaktie give (?)
  • #anleihen: Don't know much about this, but could be relevant as we sold the expensive blend funds and he no longer has lower risk bonds in the portfolio. With more rate hikes expected, bonds could go down further. Maybe a bond ETF savings plan (?) is worthwhile.
  • Time Deposit (6-12 months): The only recommendation I could give him in good conscience
  • Other #immobilie: Don't think he wants to go through the stress again in his old age....


PS on his current investment portfolio : With home and two apartments, most of the assets are in real estate. 50-70k are currently invested in individual stocks/stock ETF, the rest is - as mentioned - cash.


Looking forward to your input! <3


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As a pensioner, he has already "provided for" the rest is a bonus. I would also consume the money - travel now where there is time and the body still plays along.
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First, I would clarify his goals in a personal conversation with him. Is the pension really enough (as some commentators here assume without reason) or does he need money here and there because of rent and/or grandchildren? Would he like to support you in the purchase of a property? Investing for prospective retirees is based on completely different conditions and should be made dependent on this if necessary. There are many possible strategies such as: - Dividend strategy with high yield focus: Here you invest primarily in stocks and dividend stocks with high stability and corresponding dividend yield. Dividend ETF strategy: I myself strictly reject this concept, but there are individual cases where this can fit. You put a certain part of your money into e.g. the High Dividend Yield and enjoy the regular dividends. These are two classics. There are other options depending on the retiree's objectives and vision. No investment advice. No solicitation to buy sell financial products. Only my opinion.
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Chris Vermeulen has recently published a book called "Asset Revesting", which recommends this strategy especially for retirees, especially because of the good return at very low drawdown. But this is an active strategy.
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It depends very much on what your father still plans to do. Does he want to 1. use up the capital, 2. put it aside for a good nursing home or 3. bequeath it to his children? Case 1: Money market ETF - currently yields approx. 4%pa. $XEON And just gradually sell. case 2: 50% money market, 20% gold, 30% $VWRL. With this he should get at least a little bit of return for the next 10-20 years without taking big risks. Case 3: 100% $VWRL Is not a big deal, but better than failed self-management. The heirs can then decide for themselves what to do with it. Otherwise: Note the danger of giving advice on money matters. If it goes wrong, the family blessing can quickly be gone.
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It strikes me that you yourself say that you are not at all familiar with an "investment strategy for the over 65s", but that you sold everything right away. In my eyes, that doesn't add up. If it were my father, I would go with him to his bank and let him get advice. It avoids a lot of unnecessary hassle.
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On the subject of bonds: As long as you hold the bond for its entire term, it doesn't matter whether the price falls or rises. This is only decisive if you want to part with it during the term. You can safely ignore the price risk....
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I would advise to consume it. Who knows how old your father will be. With the stock portfolio and the real estate he should not suffer from old-age poverty. Or rather advise nothing at all.
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50% bonds and 50% low votality dividend Etf of course distributing.
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Why not just go to the bank advisor and get advice. It does not always have to be the ETF , stocks and bonds. You talk about expensive funds. 1% TER is perfectly fine ? Maybe a mixed investment of 6 or 7 years time deposit + floater + ETF or active fund on dividend Title ?
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My mother will retire in about 10 years. We have divided it up for her like this: 50% call money with a current interest rate of 3% 50%. $VWRL

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