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Unpopular opinion of mine probably, but: I personally am not a fan of "tax optimization". Yes, it is legal, as well as vv GmbHs. People who have enough money that they can put aside well (like me for example) should still make their tax contribution. On the contrary, I would rather try to reduce the loopholes for wealthy people and reduce the tax burden in general (especially on earned income and pensions). Otherwise the gap between wealthy and destitute is widening mMn. Either being a millionaire at 50 or living from hand to mouth cannot be the concept of the future.
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@KevinC You can certainly argue about that. Personally, however, I think it's important to create an incentive for listed buildings to be beautifully restored and thus to preserve our culture. I'm right there with you when it comes to wild holding and foundation structures.
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@TradingMelone @KevinC that just the interesting part I have daily in the profession so structures to advise or build 😅 As long as it is legal and it Rechnet why not? You still pay taxes, just as little as necessary?
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@DerSteuerberater No, that's exactly the attitude that I don't think is fair. I see myself as an achiever in society. I can contribute more to the common good than the street sweeper or the hairdresser. I don't need to renovate (have renovated) with the support of the state and then profit even more from the fact that 50% of the population spend (have to spend) all the money they have (usually from employment) to make ends meet. If an employee pays more taxes in percentage terms than a multimillionaire (because he finances 37 apartments and makes hardly any profit on paper), that goes against my sense of justice. That's just my (financially stupid for me, I know) point of view. VV GmbH would probably be worthwhile for me now or in a few years. Then I would have even more advantages over the small savers. Is not my world. I feel taxes are an important contribution and it should be fairly distributed. I can only start with myself. I could talk about tax waste in the same way, but there I have even less influence. But I would also put it on the political agenda.
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•@KevinC I also say nothing against it, I'm all your opinion, but why should I pay for something 100 if I can pay for 30 is just there the thing. Clearly is considered on the poor man at the checkout at Lidl not fair, but he would probably do nothing else in the situation of the other. Berate also nothing soo Krasses or persuade people rather here to pay taxes than somewhere else. Most (not young) understand that and we then build something to save taxes here. This also works very well. Man comes then not on 0% but on 15% and that is enough for most then 🤷🏼 Make then with those, for further savings, mostly charitable foundations that then finance something for which the stand.
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@DerSteuerberater I don't blame you or your industry. Nobody should pay too much tax. It's up to the state to make the conditions fair mMn. My dad (as a freelancer) was always advised to spend more money on the car, because that would be financially more worthwhile. Only ever bought a new car when he really needed it - as any employee would have done. I see a lot of the wrong incentives. I'm in favor of making buildings worthwhile, without having to help out with taxes (the state is a big price driver, especially in the case of historic buildings). On the other hand, I have many colleagues (in the engineering and automotive sectors) who work overtime because the taxes take so much out of it anyway that it's not really worth it for them. But we really need these hours (from the employer's point of view), and I think it would be fair to tax overtime (e.g. from the 41st hour) at a lower rate. Or generally a model a la 401k / USA. By the way, you can't earn that bad at Lidl, I was there for 3 years as a working student. You have to work there too, but financially, I think the cost/income ratio is right. At least from assistant to sales management / department management; was in a regional warehouse, not in branch). What others do I can not change. I don't dope (in amateur cycling); if someone else does, I still don't have to copy that. But the result is similar to finances (except for the physical damage).
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@KevinC I agree with most of what you say, but the other side of the coin is that if there are no tax breaks for renovations, no one will do it anymore. Taxes are more than just government revenue. They are also supposed to "control" the economy and the flow of money. The money of the rich will flow somewhere, in this case rather into old houses.
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@Epi d'accord! Have it very simplified, I think your criticism is legitimate!
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•@KevinC yes, there are many interesting things from different countries in thema taxes. The interest up there is just unfortunately capital directed, although it is much better with us in Germany than in other countries such as Eastern Europe or South America 😅 Even if it were fair, there would still be my job, because people just want to pay less 🤷🏼
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