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My intention is to bring the newcomers closer to the ETF world in several posts. If you have any wishes or suggestions for the next article, please let me know in the comments.


Common beginner mistakes with ETFs:

1. ETF hopping

When ETF hopping, the ETF's are changed regularly or the invested money is moved back and forth between several ETFs. Since investing money in ETF's should be done over a long period of time without constantly switching products, ETF hopping is negative.

There can be several reasons why switching ETF's initially makes sense:

- Cheaper providers

- Switching for strategic reasons

- Changes in tax legislation

None of these reasons, however, justifies a regular change of ETF where switching is done once a year or even more frequently.

Above all, the price comparison of the providers makes sense, if at all, only at the beginning, because in the subsequent period, after a certain product has been selected, there will always be a cheaper provider to find in the context of marketing campaigns. However, these are only temporary offers that become more expensive again over time.


A change for strategic reasons is rather a conceivable option. On the one hand, this change can be made if another ETF reflects one's own investment strategy better than the previous one. On the other hand, a change of strategy can also take place if the new ETF performs better than the ETF in which money was previously invested. A change of strategy is usually not worthwhile or necessary in retrospect if an ETF has been chosen carefully. If a new ETF is chosen for strategic reasons, then the new ETF must perform significantly better or match one's expectations to justify this change. And even then, such a switch should only be made once every five or ten years.


Tax legislation in Germany or in the country of the ETF provider can influence the amount of the running costs in such a way that investors have to pay more, then it simply has to be calculated comparatively whether there is another ETF that performs just as well compared to the previous ETF, but which has a lower tax impact.


Background knowledge:

Tax pitfalls also arise when switching ETFs. If the previous ETF shares are sold, withholding taxes must be paid on the gains from the investments if the exemption amount has been exceeded. Only then can the new ETF be purchased.


Omission of compound interest effect of untaxed capital gains:

If through the sale Abgeltungsteuer must be paid, you lack capital, which can continue to work for you. So just if the ETF already contains some profit, then you should rightly consider whether because of -0.07% TER the ETF should be changed.

(thanks to @RisingAktie )


Conclusion:

An ETF change can make sense in large time intervals, whereby the mentioned valid reasons must be present. Regular switches are to be strictly rejected and are rookie mistakes in response to discount advertisements, loco offers or a sign of insecurity and impatience in investing.


A serious mistake is investing in products that you do not understand and have no knowledge about. -> Lorena's post - Synthetic / Physical etc.



I too have switched here e.g. just because of the cost. But does not make much sense with ETFs, if the difference is only 0.07% TER eg.


Finanzfluss has a calculator to assess whether switching an ETF is worthwhile due to lower costs: https://www.finanzfluss.de/rechner/etf-wechseln/

Thanks to @JohannesWo


Now also a "useful" contribution from me. At least I hope so...

But the good @Lorena with her contribution already a good piece taken ahead... no matter!

What else would you like to know?

I thought in the next post times to compare the providers with each other or present. Or closer to the difference regarding synthetic / physical replicated.


Horrido!

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DWS Group
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Lyxor DAX® ETF logo
Lyxor DAX® ETF
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Amundi
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BlackRock Funding Inc
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Oh I did not want to take anything away from you :) <3 many thanks and a @ccf from me. What I would find exciting: as you say again explain in more detail what physically replicating, synthetic means and perhaps also WHY some do so, others so? Furthermore maybe differences between distributing and accumulating funds? As ideas.
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@Lorena thank you ☺️ have just dawdled too long 😅 All right! The synthetic / physical is really interesting 👌🏻
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Finally someone who posts content. For motivation a @ccf
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Financial Flow has a calculator to assess if switching ETF's is worth it due to lower costs: https://www.finanzfluss.de/rechner/etf-wechseln/
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@JohannesWo I pack equal times with purely!
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Nice finally one more what Postet :D Can / may the TER of an ETF eigl change over time? I have wondered for some time but never googled
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@SharkAce Yes may well be, at the moment it is, since the providers give each other good competition rather so that it will be cheaper for us :) If soon The takeover of Lyxor by Amundi will be completed, there may be some good discounts, let's see :) But at Lyxor there were in the last few years some themes Etfs eg the Lyxor Millenials, Disruptive Tech etc which initially had a TER of 0.15 for half a year, was a kind of action but after half a year they were increased to 0.45, but was also so on the website ...is just a kind of customer catch a la, get in yet it is cheap :D I myself have e.g. the EM Asia of Ishares in the depot that was once at TER 0.65 or so believe, now 0.20. Or the Ishares Em SRI was at 0.20, now 0.25. So yes can always change times in one or the other direction^^
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@Dreamliner am also with ishares and have always considered switching to a cheaper but in the end the impact is probably minimal compared to the effort 😅 But cool thanks 👍🏼
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@SharkAce depending if you are interested on the financial flow website there is a calculator if and when it is worth it :)
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@Dreamliner also heard of but never tested :D I should vlt times make but eigl want to stay with ishares 😂 have after all also Blackrock haha Support me quasi myself
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@SharkAce yo there have in principle made nothing big wrong. Also have many ishares ;)
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One gets yes here more and more peerpressure also content to make 👀 Beautiful contribution @ccf gönnt the Brudi
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@KapriolenSonne when meaningful contributions from you?
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@KapriolenSonne when meaningful contributions from you the second? (Oh damn again second...)
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@KapriolenSonne please from next month then 😂
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@SharkAce @Lorena Coming soon to their GetQuin feed 🤫 Got a few topics there.
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@KapriolenSonne 🤝 for 9.99 I correct your spelling
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@DiFigiANo Ne ne, otherwise the guilty conscience as a lurker is always greater 😅
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Nice contribution (the CCF I save me, have already linked 2 others in the meantime). What I would lift there but as the biggest point speaks against unnecessary ETF hopping (and I am missing in the contribution): omitted compound interest effect of the unversteuterten price gains. By the sale will (certainly) KapEst. arise the you capital to reinvest for the next missing and thus can no longer continue. So just when the Etf already contains some profit, then you should think right whether I go because of -0.07% TER to the next
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@RisingAktie you're right, of course! I'll include it right away!
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Nice post @ccf 🚀
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