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Savings plan vs. individual purchases (shares)


Since this topic has been coming up quite a bit here lately, here's my opinion/the internet's opinion. I'll just make a series out of it "Try to stop the XY posts". The other day there was CCF Money 👀. Also, this is only about stocks and not ETFs. The points can be transferred theoretically, but make less sense with a large diversified ETF (e.g. World / All World).


Very short explanation of terms


Savings plans - I invest continuously(!) sum x in share X/ shares XY

One-time purchases - I invest sum x once, if I like the current price


Savings plan advantages


A savings plan is the simpler variant. One has a low entrance hurdle, since one can save with today's Neobrokern already starting from 1€ free of charge. The variant is connected with clearly less time, since one does not have to concern oneself with the next purchase. One sets here namely on the average price. By not considering the market situation one buys over the year seen sometimes more expensive and sometimes more favorable. This variant offers besides a disciplining effect completely after the slogan "from the eyes out of the sense". A fixed sum is deducted from the account every month, which is not used for anything else. Thus, one learns to handle the net salary better and not to touch the savings plan sum.


Savings plan disadvantages


The biggest disadvantage is the average price. You accept the fact that no matter what market situation you are in, the stock will be bought. Thus, the probability is high to achieve a poorer return at the end of the year.

Individual purchases advantages

The single purchase is the clearly more difficult variant. Nevertheless, one has here the possibility in certain market situations like e.g. the Coronacrash to buy very favorably. It is advantageous here if the reason for the favorable price is not due to a company. Buying Wirecard for 5€ instead of 100€ would still have been stupid... But if the price of a company drops due to a worldwide pandemic, the company remains fundamentally the same. So you have the possibility to buy the same company for X% less. Such situations should be used.


Single purchases disadvantages


Here is just the danger that one cuts off by a wrong timing in the final effect worse than the average price. The danger of overestimating oneself is much greater. In addition, there is the risk that one by constantly waiting for suitable prices in the end significantly less invested.


Conclusion


As usual on the stock market, a higher risk (with success) is rewarded. If I put my money aside and invest only in suitable situations, I normally beat the average price. In order not to fall into the overestimation of oneself, one should fix fixed entry points for the desired shares. Otherwise the danger is great that one waits for even more favorable and even more favorable prices, until one misses the entrance completely and the sum was not invested. In addition, such a comparison is only permissible if the actual savings amount is not used in the one-time purchase. Someone who invests 500€ every month will still have more at the end of the year, even if the other person invested 3000€ at the perfect time. If you prefer a one-time purchase, you should still remove X amount from your account every month. The whole topic can be made a lot bigger than here in this post. However, since it is not intended to be a bachelor thesis, we will only scratch the surface here.


Personal opinion


As with many other topics, most people only see an either or... I myself use both options and this is also the best option. All except two positions (because it is not possible) in my depot are saved monthly. This has the simple reason that I want to see my portfolio grow monthly and bring a certain constant purely. In certain market situations, the savings plan is also increased or there are several one-time purchases to take the cheaper prices. Thus the depot grows constantly and certain market situations are used. Is this now the way to go for everyone? nope. But that is also the beauty of the stock market, everyone can handle it the way he wants. Nobody can predict the future (except @Donkeyinvestor) can predict the future. End of the song: do what you want, because it's your money 🙃


Interesting how you prefer to sit down at something like this instead of your homework....

Ps. my standard GIF no longer exists 🙁


https://de.bergfuerst.com/ratgeber/sparplan


https://www.weltsparen.de/geldanlage/etf/etf-sparplan-oder-einmalanlage/#:~:text=Beide%20Varianten%20bieten%20unterschiedliche%20Vorteile,einem%20Sparplan%20vom%20Durchschnittskosteneffekt%20profitieren.


https://de.extraetf.com/news/etf-news/alternative-zu-etfs-wie-sinnvoll-sind-aktiensparplaene-wirklich


https://www.t-online.de/finanzen/geld-vorsorge/geldanlage/id_82849246/aktien-sparplan-regelmaessig-kleine-betraege-in-aktien-anlegen.html#was-sind-die-vorteile-eines-aktien-sparplans

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Yes here again @ccf but now do your homework you flute 😡
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@KapriolenSonne I actually do both. Multitasking and such 👀
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@SharkAce Are a hustler, I see already 👀
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@KapriolenSonne someone has to be👀
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@KapriolenSonne so housework in savings plan 🤷🏼‍♂️😂
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@GoDividend Is the salary what you get then thanks to housework the dividend?🤔
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@KapriolenSonne what money 😵‍💫
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@KapriolenSonne Education dividend
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I am also of the opinion a mixture of both is the best :-) For those who want to deal with just less are savings plans just great, which just run and you have to do nothing more ...
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@Dreamliner absolutely. Not everyone wants to deal with the stock market every day like we do :D
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Ts copies my idea
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@leveragegrinding copied them with Internet Explorer. Took 4 months...
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Just make the savings plans so high that they already pass as individual purchases 🤡
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@tim1 fits with you 😂
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@ccf because of the gif, can dance well!
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@Gaylord thank you! When will you swing the dance leg with me?
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@SharkAce anytime!
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I also do a mix of both like this with bitcoin. As soon as I have money (fiat), most of it is exchanged into Bitcoin pretty promptly. If the prices fall more (as they are currently), then the minimalist and frugalist mode is activated and more is bought.
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I do both, also with the etfs, but rule-based. The etfs run in the savings plan and in January I rebalance by buying more. The individual shares also run throughout the year in the savings plan and in December I look for a stock from my portfolio or a new one where I like the price and invest the money I have left.
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@leveragegrinding had already written a post about this. You are too late 😘 https://app.getquin.com/activity/DqAnbPdvDC
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@DonkeyInvestor that was 4 months ago 😂 I do not even know what I ate yesterday hahah
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@SharkAce Shame on you
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This is burdensome We need an overview of all good contributions6
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@leveragegrinding an area for all CCF posts would be a start. Then they would at least not duplicate 😅 Mano thought am the first... F
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@getquin do something
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@DonkeyInvestor @KapriolenSonne new page in Caprioles Capital
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@leveragegrinding @SharkAce hmm some of the ccf posts I get via the posts from the ccf account, but overall probably not all.
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@DonkeyInvestor has the DonkeyDev still ne good idea? You could put the voting links through against I guess
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@KapriolenSonne do you have the code on GitHub?
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Jahaaaaa the world is not black and white beep beep beep@ccf
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@Lorena She said and has a black and white profile picture... Ah crap me too
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@SharkAce ah fuck and nu
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@Lorena bring ma bissi color into the game
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@Lorena Well for rabbits already 🤓
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@KapriolenSonne Rabbit Kapri - I have also not seen for a long time.
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@Lorena You won't, because I'll hobble away from you, you melon head.
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@KapriolenSonne I wasn't talking about you. Good, then I'll pull your rabbit ears long right away
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@Lorena If you touch me, I'll eat up your cables
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@KapriolenSonne not if I stuff your mouth with strawberry pie 🤗 want a piece?
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@Lorena Oh yes, very much 🤤
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ey du Hai, I have also requested the look into the future ccf twice
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@Derebete double holds better
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@ccf good Beitrag👍🏼"Savings plans are not worthwhile..." or "sell everything that has xx amount..." are also cool statements from some... a measly savings plan can later become more and in conjunction with one-off investments perfect
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I think savings plans are great but firstly my broker can't do that and secondly I always buy as much of a share as I have "cash" in my account and then always as much as I need for my CC's until I have 100 shares full
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@Andreas1991 Which broker are you with? I thought there were savings plans everywhere by now
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@SharkAce Agora direct, is basically a German interactive broker offshoot
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"So if I put my money aside and only invest in suitable situations, I usually beat the average price." -> I say that the risk that the stock will run away and you won't get back in is not negligible either 😅 - Very good post though!
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@InvestierenmitBen that's exactly how I see it. It's also written a few sentences further on in the conclusion :D

Overconfidence is unfortunately often a mistake
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@SharkAce I saw that, I just wanted to emphasize it again. This has happened to me far too often :D
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