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Were today with the level at a winery and have made there 2h a tour and really everything was explained. The exciting thing for me, which I have always taken with Bitcoin in mind is:


Bitcoin mining is a self-regulating market. If a lot of new miners join (increasing hashrate), all miners practically earn less, because there is no more profit distributed just because there are more miners. That's why it's hard for inefficient miners to stay profitable, and if they don't do anything about that inefficiency, they'll be eliminated.


Another self-regulation in mining happens when prices fall. Since miners sell a large portion of their mined bitcoin to pay for their equipment/electricity, they are naturally dependent on the bitcoin price. If this is low, the mining companies naturally earn less. This also eliminates the inefficient/unprofitable miners and so the "survivors" get a bigger share of the pie again.

If the miners manage to remain efficient and profitable, then they survive this threshold at which unprofitable miners leave and then earn a little more again.


So now to the winery and what the boss told us there:


He himself says that due to the currently very high inflation of 7.9% a lot of profit has collapsed, because they can not completely pass on the sharply increased prices to the customer and so earn less themselves. He also said that real inflation is probably much higher than the official figures, since electricity, water prices and glass bottles etc. have become more expensive by far more than 30%.


Then he has so incidentally criticized the system that the market usually regulates itself (as in bitcoin mining) and they try to be more efficient and make savings to stay in the market. So normally the unprofitable vintners should leave the market which leads to it being more profitable again (has more of the pie then). However, this is not the case in reality due to government intervention, since unprofitable/inefficient winemakers are kept alive by strong government aid and subsidies and winemakers are still on the market that should actually no longer be on the market (those were his words).


Thus, the market does not regulate itself and he does not like that (I grinned because he spoke from my soul).


Furthermore, he complained about the European subsidies. Because although they all want to support smaller companies, the big companies get the subsidies in the end. This is also not good for the environment, because the small farmers are the ones who do the most for the environment (I have seen everything on the ground). Also, the big corporations have supplies from all over the world, workers for the lowest wages abroad and then they can still sell it in Germany as Made in Germany when it was bottled in Germany.🇩🇪


A little fun fact he mentioned is that Lufthansa gets the biggest agricultural subsidies from the EU although it is not even an agricultural company but only exports wine. This is the classic cantillion effect. Those closest to the printing press benefit, while the others (small businesses) bear the costs (e.g. inflation).😕


I knew all this before, since you deal with it a lot if you also deal with Bitcoin but it felt good to see the whole economic theory in reality for once. And that the state and the EU with their money actually do a lot of damage by keeping the zombie companies alive or by the enormous subsidies.🥴


Bitcoin fixes this😘

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In other words: binge more wine 🥴
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in other words: the theory models Keynes VS Hayek also watch the video of the battle on youtube 😍
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@RedLobster Do you have the link to the video? I only know the rap battle between Satoshi and Hamilton
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Absolute lifehack: buy bitcoin and instead of losing 8% on inflation just lose 30% + inflation on top again 😜
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@Kkfknrr If you lose 30% with Bitcoin, then you haven't understood it and prefer to stay with the Euro.
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@Stewie hahahahahahahha
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"Went to the winery yesterday...anyways BITCOIN folks!"
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@SquirtGame Bitcoin fix this🌝
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How is Bitcoin going to fix this now ?
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@MrGekko No moneyprinter goes brrr. No unnecessary subsidies somewhere in and to expand the money supply. A stable money which allows the companies to plan and does not drive them into financial ruin. Exactly that fixt Bitcoin
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Bitcoin is not scalable and if you do it via lightning it is no longer decentralized
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@MrGekko Bitcoin is not supposed to scale on the base layer either, then it wouldn't be decentralized. Lightning is used for everyday payments and not everyone needs to open their Lightning channel to everyone for it to work. Lightning is definitely not centralized, as everyone can run their own LN node.
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@sinnvestition Yup, the fuel price brake is also an absolute disaster. What the politicians make cheaper will be made more expensive again by the corporations. And as the Germans tick, all will fill up their gas cans / make hamster purchases and take the cheap gasoline. This increasing demand will also make prices even more expensive. Conclusion: Gasoline prices will be noticeably more expensive after the subsidy than before the subsidy.
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@Stewie The cartel office has already informed that they have an eye on it. One should be glad that the policy has engaged and this tankrabatt has initiated... the people need as soon as possible a relief. Clearly, there would be better / faster solutions. But this is the path that has now been taken. Many people in this country can be happy about that. That was bitterly necessary.
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@Mcl1991 No, it is not the best way, because it will probably only increase the price of gasoline. The corporations are not stupid and do not realize that the fuel is subsidized. The companies are already increasing the price of gasoline, even though oil prices are falling. The state makes in the end only more harm than good, but for that you have to understand how the market works.
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@JappyJump Not into the future, but into the past. You can see what happens when politicians take over certain things. See Internet expansion, rail traffic, etc. Besides, I've described to you in the example what that has for negative effects.
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@Stewie "probably". No one knows that now. So we'll have to wait and see. As I said, the Cartel Office has already informed us that they are keeping an eye on this, and I didn't say it was the best way to go. It's just the path that has been taken now, and we'll have to wait and see how things develop.
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@JappyJump As far as I know, the state holds all the shares in DB, which makes it a state-owned company.
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@stonksonlygodown You didn't understand what I wrote. Do you have anything constructive to contribute? Otherwise block
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@seder Not only our country, unfortunately. It's like that everywhere and the problem lies in our monetary system where the people closest to the moneyprinter benefit the most. Cantillion effect
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@Frank_Thaelen That is a different discussion. In most cases, the market regulates itself through various market mechanisms. Only in the case of things like environmental protection, the state should intervene/subsidize in order to artificially reduce the price of more environmentally friendly products (which are more expensive to produce and therefore not really competitive) until they have fully arrived on the market.
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