2Yr·

Are these good jobs with fair and realistic salaries?

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7 Comments

Staatsmann@Staatsmann

2Yr

Without more info on work experience, qualifications, hours per week, industry, etc., it's not very meaningful. I know web developers with far more, but also far less salary. Similar to software engineers.

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HyperX@AxoWallStreet

2Yr

Depending on experience / location, these can be realistic salaries from my experience. But without details meaningless information.

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Marcel@Mcl1991

2Yr

In my experience so far (I'm still a junior developer in web development), the requirements/expectations for software developers are very high. Also the pressure among developers to always learn new things and at what speed. You are exposed to constant criticism and time pressure and often have to do overtime. And for this I find, as well as some developers I've met, that the pay is too low (sums were lower than those mentioned here). The salaries mentioned here may apply to senior developers who have to perform even more. I'm now also thinking about a job change, because the daily work no longer suits me and also unfortunately so no longer brings joy. But that's just my personal experience and that of some I've met 🙂 Of course, there are also many who are very satisfied.

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Nico@itZNico

2Yr

@Mcl1991 I feel the same way. 💯 I feel the moment in the sitcom "Silicon Valley" when Jared explains Scrum to the developers and Gilfoyle says: "This just became a job". 😂 https://youtu.be/Ps4nSgyieIw

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Marcel@Mcl1991

2Yr

@itZNico Haha yes 😄 I don't know the series at all, I'll have to take a look. working according to scrum is also very widespread. It makes sense in my opinion, but you have a lot of meetings and that can lead to even more time pressure when coding. And then colleagues come "hey, can you help pls briefly?", then there's criticism at merge requests although you're already sitting on another ticket, etc.... 🤯

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Frank@BlueVelvet

2Yr

The salaries are realistic, but more in the expert or senior range. There are usually additional benefits, such as vacation and Christmas bonuses, and often also a profit share. As mentioned in the comments above, I am critical of the overtime and the time pressure. If you work for a company that is bound by collective bargaining agreements, this is still regulated to a certain extent and you will generally be paid for the extra time or you can work it off. It's a different story at system houses or start-ups, where such things are often simply 'expected'.

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Felix@Investor_in_Jogginghose

2Yr

My colleague does "database orchestration" and earns about 70,000€. Funnily enough, he dropped out of his computer science studies after he got an offer in his student job.

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