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How has Frank Thelen's fund been doing so far?


Frank Thelen's 10XDNA fund has now been on the market for 4 months and has lost around 10% in value since the first day of trading (cf. https://www.onvista.de/fonds/10XDNA-DISRUPTIVE-TECHNOLOGIES-R-EUR-DIS-Fonds-DE000DNA10X3).


But what is the reason for this? Officially, the fund has no benchmark with which we can compare the performance. But let's take a look at Cathie Woods ARK Innovation ETF, which uses a similar investment universe.


Since the beginning of September, the share price has fallen from €104.80 to €82.15, a drop of almost 22%. Frank Thelen and his team are not the only ones who are currently failing to deliver performance with their focus on disruptive innovations.


The performance of Bitcoin and Ethereum, which are each included in the fund at around 4%, has also not made any major price jumps in recent months and could not save the return.


So what can be concluded from this short-term performance now:


Actually, what was already known before. Frank Thelen's fund is heavily dependent on how volatile and risky innovative companies perform. Thus, the product is also conceivably unsuitable for beginners taking their first steps into the investment world. To draw a conclusion about the success of the fund and to evaluate the performance, the product is still too young. However, I would still not invest here, as the fund is clearly too concentrated on a few volatile stocks for me.


What do you think about the fund and its performance?

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@Frank_Thelen Frank, what do you say to the fact that your fund is viewed so critically or taken apart here? 🤔
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I am not a big fan of the fund, especially because of the costs, some stocks are quite exciting. The performance, however, is of course over a longer period only reasonable to evaluate, especially in the current challenging market phase. Basically, however, he has outperformed ARK after all, so could be worse!
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Thelen is a swindler
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I think that this kind of funds will be picked apart in the current market environment. Ark at least had a successful time, Thelen was much too late...
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The timing for the included values is also really unlucky. Growth is just taken apart harder than cars by the Ludolfs 🤕
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Celebrity funds are one thing. Dirk Müller's fund is unfortunately an example of how famous faces do not automatically stand for stock market success. The fact that Thelen invests his own savings in the fund is a plus. On the negative side are the high costs and the fact that Thelen was invested in Wirecard until the very end. If you really want to be part of it, you can invest a small sum. At comdirect, the fund is available without an issue surcharge. You should not go all-in, as the orientation is too risky for that.
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One of the biggest positions is Tesla, how can the thing perform so badly?🧐😂
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Ui exciting topic. I have looked at the fund and also posted a question here that no one could answer. There are several tranches and only in the "expensive" tranches with high minimum deposits the fees decrease and my question was whether the shares of these tranches are then also simply freely tradable on the stock exchange. I would not buy this fund because I find actively managed funds too expensive and you can now find a good ETF for really every topic, especially in tech. If you are interested in 10xDNA you can just look at the components and buy them. Did not understand anyway why he just makes ne compilation and then on thick pants bang I'm the best fund.
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