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+++ Advance lump sum 2022 and 2023 +++

In an article by @Johannes_J the letter from the BMF (Federal Ministry of Finance) and the prime rate as at 02.01.2023 are mentioned. With regard to this and my reference to the payment ("or rather" payment not to be made this year), there was a question as to how exactly this now plays a role for accumulating and distributing ETFs.


Below is a layman's tax explanation on the subject of basic interest and advance lump sum.


What is the prime rate for calculating the advance lump sum?


The base interest rate is a variable interest rate according to which valuations for capital services are to be made in Germany and Austria. In Germany, the Deutsche Bundesbank is responsible for determining this rate, which is calculated and officially published every six months (at the beginning of each half-year) on the basis of European Central Bank guidelines.

The prime rate for calculating the advance lump sum is based on federal bonds with a term of 15 years.


Due to the official announcement, the interest rate has a special status, as it is the only official market interest rate.


The prime rate is a so-called valuation interest rate and is used, for example, in the calculation of default interest and penalties for court judgments.


In addition to the above applications, the prime rate is decisive for determining the annual upfront lump sum on capital-linked investments.


What is the advance lump sum?


The advance lump sum is a regulation introduced by the Investment Tax Act of 2018 (InvStG) for the taxation of investment income. As a result of this taxation, a flat-rate tax is levied annually in advance on future profits.

This advance lump sum in turn means that it is offset in the year the investment is sold and only the amount not covered by the advance lump sum is taxed on the capital gain.


The aim of the advance lump sum is to eliminate the tax deferral for investors. However, it is critical to note here that this is not completely lifted, especially when it comes to low prime rates and only a small portion is taxed in advance, which means that the tax deferral becomes a distant prospect, especially with regard to the subsequent tax burden of the taxpayer investor.


How does the calculation of the advance lump sum work?


The basic income is calculated for the advance lump sum, then the basic income is compared with the capital appreciation of the investment and the tax payable is calculated on this basis.


Example based on a scenario of capital appreciation in 2023 with the prime rate for 2023 set at 2.55% on January 2, 2023 (Assumption: Accumulating ETF with at least 51% equity component, e.g. MSCI WORLD/EM or ACWI) :


Value of the investment as at 01.01.2023:

10.000€

Value of the investment on 01.01.2024:

10.500€

Increase in value:

500€

Base yield10,000€ x 2.55% (prime rate) x 0.7 (70% of the prime rate) = 178.50€


1) The basic income is less than the increase in value of €500 in the previous year, therefore the following applies:

Use of the base yield as a taxable advance lump sum.


Example:

Capital gains tax and solidarity surcharge payable thereon: 26.375%


Special tax feature:

If it is an equity fund with at least 51% equity component, this can be partially exempted with 30% and only 70% has to be taxed. This usually includes World, ACWI and EM ETFs as well as other equity funds.


Calculation:


0.26375 x (0.7 x 178.50€) = 32,96€ Taxes to be paid


2) If the increase in value of the capital investment is lower than the basic income, the increase in value is used as an advance lump sum.


Calculation:


0.26375 x (0.7 x 500€) = 92,31€
Tax to be paid


Summary:


The advance lump sum is payable by all investors. However, the advance lump sum is only payable for investments in funds and ETFs. Gains from individual shares will continue to be taken into account for tax purposes when they are sold. ETCs with physical deposit are also exempt from the advance lump sum.


As can be seen above, there are a) two different scenarios for calculating the tax (i.e. depending on the amount of basic income and capital gains; 1 or 2) and b) the tax treatment of investments in funds and ETFs.


The tax treatment also depends on whether it is an equity fund (whether ETF or classic) with at least 51% equities, a mixed fund (i.e. less than 51% equities, e.g. bonds mixed with equities, The following applies here: equity component higher than 25% = 15% partial exemption, full taxation below) or other funds (e.g. pure bond funds or commodity funds without physical deposit).


Various calculators can be found on the Internet which can make a calculation for the respective year. Please refer to the sources below.


A distinction is also made here between distributing and accumulating ETFs and funds.


There were no advance lump sums for 2021 and 2022, as the base interest rates were negative in each year (most recently -0.05%, as at 02.01.2022) and therefore no advance lump sum could be calculated.


Since on 04.01.2022 (i.e. today) the BMF set the prime rate at 2.55% with effect from 02.01.2023, it is clear that in the event of an increase in the value of your ETF or fund units held on 01.01.2023 as at 01.01.2024, this prime rate will be used as the basis for the base yield.


What exactly does this mean for "me"?


If you have an increase in the value of your ETFs or funds, keep your clearing account on 31.12.2023 at least the expected tax amount ready. The tax is usually paid by your broker from 02.01. of the following year (i.e. 2024)!

As this is a sovereign tax, your clearing account will also go into the red if the cover is not provided. The penalty interest is usually very high at the broker (especially when a clearing account is overdrawn), which is why you should ensure sufficient cover here.


In general, you should plan to pay the tax in November or December and pay it in accordingly. The payment will then be made fully automatically by the broker.


If you do not have an increase in the value of the shares held on 01.01.2024 from 01.01.23 (because everything went down the drain), the advance lump sum is also waived. Additional shares acquired during the year do not play a role for the time being and will only be taken into account with the next advance lump sum in 2024.


Supplement:


Exemptions and therefore no tax burden if...


  • your exemption order has not been exhausted,
  • you have submitted a non-assessment certificate, or
  • general losses that have not been offset offset the tax burden.



Important note in this matter:


The information provided is purely from a layman's point of view and is published to the best of my personal knowledge.

I have no tax training, nor do I know your personal tax particularities, nor am I providing tax advice. I am providing information purely as an end in itself and in line with the community guidelines. There is no claim to correctness and completeness. Only your tax advisor can give you tax advice!


Sources:


Partial exemption of funds: https://www.fondsclever.de/ratgeber/fonds-wissen/teilfreistellung-bei-fonds/

Advance lump sum in the law:

https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/12129/a199930.htm

Prime rate: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basiszinssatz

Publication on the prime rate for advance lump sum and its calculation 02.01.2023 by the BMF: https://www.bundesfinanzministerium.de/Content/DE/Downloads/BMF_Schreiben/Steuerarten/Investmentsteuer/2023-01-04-basiszins-zur-berechnung-der-vorabpauschale-gemaess-paragraf-18-absatz-4-InvStG-basiszins-zum-2-januar-2023.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1

Tax calculator for advance lump sum:

https://www.finanzfluss.de/rechner/vorabpauschale-berechnen/


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@Joris @SharkAce @Howsy @DonkeyInvestor @Michael-official @Rathi @Greenery @Iwant_money_423 Because of your response to the comment in the original post. 😜
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Horny guy wanted to inform me later what it has now for effects. Has now settled 😂❤️@ccf
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@SharkAce Yours sincerely, Your investor service from InvestmentPapa GmbH & Co. KG 🥰
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Wanted to write an article about it myself for a long time, but I realized that I have no idea about it. Good that you have written it 😘 Just that with the tax, which is collected from the clearing account, should surprise many with Neobrokern. Surprises me though. I've owned funds for more than 10 years and don't recall anything like this being collected from any of my accounts at any point 🤔🧐 If the actual profit is higher than the profit assumed via the upfront lump sum, the remaining tax burden is only paid when I sell, correct? For this purpose, the advance lump sum already paid is taken into account!? Are there any legal requirements so that my broker has to inform me about the tax to be paid? Overall, this seems like an incomprehensible and investor-hostile bureaucracy monster that denies any logic.@ccf
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@DonkeyInvestor The advance lump sum is calculated only since 2019 (so to 2018). Have that in my text unfortunately not written in: The tax is only collected when the tax-free amount is exhausted by distributions or appreciation (previously 801, now 1000€ or pro rata with the broker)! 😇 Sorry! Maybe that's why this has not yet been an issue for you... 2021 and 2022 prime rate was negative which is why the advance lump sum did not apply. Correct, the actual profit is only taxed at the end of the investment when the capital investment is sold, taking into account the advance lump sum already paid. Yes, the tax deduction must be communicated by the broker, as you may be able to claim special tax cases in your tax return.
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@InvestmentPapa so it's not so bad if I'm informed in good time beforehand. But timely notification is also difficult. If the flat rate is higher than the actual increase in value, the tax burden can theoretically change up to 30.12. and would then have to be collected on 2.1. Our top automated and digitalized authorities will never manage that in a lifetime 🤔🧐
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@DonkeyInvestor That's why your broker calculates the whole thing and automatically pays it off. If there is an error, it will be revealed via the tax return. I have read about such a case, but can no longer say how exactly there was an error.
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@InvestmentPapa What happens if the share price is lower than this in the following year? So smaller than the percentage or even negative? Do I get that back or can I generally claim it in the tax return?@ccf
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@fcsp No, no refund! As with the sale, no taxes are then due. This applies at least to the simple handling, as they probably apply to most. A loss calculation without sale is not possible for private persons! (Attention: I go here on dangerous terrain. Only a tax consultant can certainly clarify the question conclusively. However, I have not come across such a possibility so far).
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@InvestmentPapa Thank you.
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Thank you. I call that a lousy ripoff 😁
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@Iwant_money_423 There is plenty of room for debate about that. 😅 But here it was purely about the consideration for the majority of scenarios, which then results next year for all 😉 You're welcome, of course. 😆
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Super thanks 🙏 you can be relied on@ccf
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@Joris You're welcome. Typed as fast as I could... on the train on the handset. 😉
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@RealRose Thank you!
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There you can only shake your head....
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@ccf

I miss that no investment advice 🫣 No investment advice and just my opinion. greetings ☻️
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@Der_Dividenden_Monteur Ok, No investment advice. 🤡
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Does it make sense to start saving for distributors now? (So far I have only reinvested)
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@DerFinanzminister In case of doubt, you have to find out for yourself. I have calculations in my head, according to which the distribution rate would have to be above 1.4% to have the tax advantages, since distributions are taxed above an allowance of 1000€/2000€ or at profit (and after using up the loss pots) of course with the capital gains tax and the social security contributions of a total of 26.375%. The distribution would therefore have to exceed the increase in value, then the tax burden would already be paid off at the time of the distributions. How exactly this looks in individual cases should be calculable with the calculator in the source (finanzfluss)...
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Fine thing! I had not on the screen! Good Job @InvestmentPapa ❗️ Have me equal times a Reminder for early December set and will then again enter into the matter. mille grazie
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Thank you for the detailed contribution! But something is still not clear to me. Assuming one would now have to pay 100€ advance lump sum at the beginning of next year, are these 100€ to be credited to the tax year 2023 or the tax year 2024?
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@herrdoc I cannot answer this question. However, I assume that this is to be "credited" to the tax year of the payment, i.e. 2024. More detailed information can only be obtained from tax experts or tax consultants.
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@herrdoc is credited to the year of payment, so in your example 2024. Since it is a new year and you usually set the broker's exemption order unlimited, it will be offset against it and nothing will be charged to the clearing account in practice unless you have crazy high ETFs with extreme appreciation.
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@RisingAktie Or have exhausted the allowance through sales during the year or dividends!
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@InvestmentPapa In practice, you will not sell so much directly on 02.01. or have already received such a high dividend that the new allowance of the new year is already used up. Therefore, this is rather a special case and who brings this, then has enough money on the clearing account anyway and hardly notices that🤣.
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Nice contribution, but if a deposited savings lump sum at the broker gives at the beginning of the year, then it is yet offset with it and at the broker is no longer offset, or not? This is an important point and will be the same for most, which is why there even in years with positive prime rate (which there was not yet since the reform 2018) nevertheless hardly anyone would have actively noticed that as a tax layman.

Many complain, but especially for people who are at the beginning and do not yet have huge deposits in six figures with just as high ETFs (or similar), the exemption order is also sometimes debited and you can "look forward" to later have to pay less KapESt. on it. Especially a lot of buy and hold ETF-only people benefit from this, because they regularly do not exhaust their exemption order completely in one year.
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@RisingAktie Exactly. As I wrote in the supplement. If the set allowance is not met, the advance lump sum is offset against the exemption. At least that's my understanding. 👍
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@RisingAktie However, there were positive prime rates in relation to the advance lump sum in 2018 (0.89%), 2019 (0.52%) and 2020 (0.07%). As a result, this was also collected in January in 2019, 2020 and 2021! Only 2021 and 2022 were each without an advance lump sum, as the prime rate was negative in relation to the advance lump sum.
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@InvestmentPapa Right, sorry, you're right. I was looking at the normal prime rate, which has been constantly negative for many years. You have to use the separate one for the lump sum.
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Best Honorary Dad 🤩. Thank you for the comprehensiveness @ccf
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If I'm not mistaken, a distributing ETF would have a "tax advantage" over a dividend stock of ~7.915%? Normally you pay ~26.375% and with the ETF through the partial exemption ~18.46% Is that correct or do I have a thinking error 🤔
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