9Mon·

Who can resist such courses?

I have increased my position from $AFX (-4.41%) once again.

For me, this is a clear case of "quality companies should be bought cheaply". And so I buy in tranches when I can get the Zeiss share at a lower price.

I'd love to hear your opinions. I am curious!

04.09

Carl Zeiss Meditec

Bought x5 at €60.95

€304.75

32 Comments

ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

But they are already too heavily weighted for a small cap in my portfolio

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Rendite_Fuxx@Rendite_Fux

9Mon

@topicswithhead How is your entry-level course?

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

@Rendite_Fux 80 so still a good 30% down but already 3% of the portfolio

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Rendite_Fuxx@Rendite_Fux

9Mon

@topicswithhead A small tranche might not hurt... If I see potential, I wouldn't shy away from 4%, for example, in my situation...

If the price moves in the right direction, you can also sell again 🤔

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Dividendenopi👴@Dividendenopi

9Mon

@Rendite_Fux were also full for me, bought at 66, bought in last week at 58x and weighted equally to my other positions with max. equity and lowered buyin. It's not an investment for a quick euro.

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

@Rendite_Fux yes, in principle, but somehow my German small caps are currently falling by 10 percent every week and it's somehow a deterrent to get in. I am convinced of the company, but that doesn't mean that the share price will recover so quickly. I'll have to think about how to do that

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Memo0606@Memo0606

9Mon

@topicswithhead exactly the same for $EKT
will throw out

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

@Memo0606 I have the feeling that you are constantly adding new shares, so I don't know whether I should see you as a medium to long-term investor. Most of my investments are just for the medium to long term

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

@topicswithhead That's not meant to be an attack. I just buy with the idea of holding for the long term and if something changes fundamentally I sell earlier

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Memo0606@Memo0606

9Mon

@topicswithhead Me too

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Soprano@Soprano

9Mon

@topicswithhead Yes, I fully understand you. I'm very, very bullish on Carl Zeiss as a specific company. I have also made a relatively large investment there and in the meantime have made my biggest loss both in percentage terms and in absolute figures.

On the other hand, I am very, very bearish on German equities. It's actually unbelievable, but apart from China and Russia, I haven't lost as much money in any other country as I have here. You have to manage that first, despite the home bias and information advantage. Germany is such an anti-business location that only openly anti-democratic systems manage to be even worse for investors.

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Tojasoku@Tojasoku

9Mon

Super company! Both as a supplier to ASML and their high-resolution microscopes. Loved them during my time in the lab 👍🏻

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead

9Mon

@Tojasoku Isn't ASML's business with the other Carl Zeiss divisions?

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Tojasoku@Tojasoku

9Mon

@topicswithhead My mistake, you may be right. I haven't dealt much with Zeiss shares.

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All-in-or-nothing@All-in-or-nothing

9Mon

@topicswithhead correct, ASML has a stake in Optik GmbH, which is majority-owned by the Carl Zeiss Foundation, I believe. Not listed on the stock exchange😉. It also has a significant stake in Trumpf Laser, so it is already very well positioned with the most important suppliers.

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Tojasoku@Tojasoku

9Mon

@All-in-or-nothing interesting, makes ASML even more exciting, as there are fewer dependencies 👍🏻

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JH90@JH90

9Mon

Why is the share performing so badly at the moment?

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Rendite_Fuxx@Rendite_Fux

9Mon

I think that the market has neither German shares nor small caps on its radar.
Qualitatively, however, the company is doing well. You have to observe whether profits remain stable and whether medical institutions, for example, continue to invest in Zeiss products.
In addition, a large part of the healthcare sector is currently unpopular.

These could be possible reasons for this. 👍🤔

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JH90@JH90

9Mon

@Rendite_Fux okay thanks for the info :)

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Sadmango@user_not_found

9Mon

Its on my blacklist actually

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Rendite_Fuxx@Rendite_Fux

9Mon

@user_not_found blacklist means Watchlist?

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Sadmango@user_not_found

9Mon

@Rendite_Fux it means i avoid it far away. Have worked there many years, loved it but I had bad experience with how they manage their finances and what decisions they keep making. They will definitely be here for the next 50 years but their current track is painful to watch. Since my investment horizon is less than 50 years I cant wait out a major change in their management. Decisions (that make at least sense) weight more in leading a company than quality (yes their stuffs are top-noch).

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Holger F.@Hugo312

9Mon

5 shares... hardly worth it

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Rendite_Fuxx@Rendite_Fux

9Mon

@Hugo312 surely depends on the position size and its weighting, doesn't it?

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