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𝐃𝐢𝐞 𝐓𝐞𝐢𝐥𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐧𝐠 𝐛𝐞𝐢 𝐄𝐓𝐅𝐬 𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐀𝐤𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐬


All ETF disciples and all-world lovers, listen up: It has come to my attention that some of you are still unaware of the partial exemption for ETFs and mutual funds. We should change that.


tl;dr:

👉🏻 There is 30% tax exemption on income on ETFs.

👉🏻 The whole thing is automatic, at least as far as domestic brokers are concerned (DE).

👉🏻 Scroll down to the two questions below to check if the partial exemption applies to you

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First and foremost, the 2018 Investment Tax Law reform has changed and simplified some things. I think most of you know about the final withholding tax of 25% + Soli of 5,5% ( and if applicable church tax) and the saver's allowance of 801 Euro p.a. (single). These are the basics. Especially concerning funds and ETFs there is a little Easter Egg:


𝐃𝐢𝐞 𝐓𝐞𝐢𝐥𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐧𝐠


Due to the reform of the law, the crediting of foreign withholding tax on the German final withholding tax has been eliminated for funds. However, in order to "compensate" investors in this respect and to prevent double taxation, the partial exemption on investment income in Germany and abroad has been created (1)


Since then, the following rule has applied to investment funds (as of 2018, everything before that is taxed according to the old principle):


- In the case of an equity fund with an equity component of at least 51%, 30% of the income is tax-free

- In the case of a mixed fund with an equity component of at least 25% (no ETFs), 15% of the income is tax-free.

- In the case of open-ended domestic real estate funds, 60% of the income is tax-exempt (80% if the investment focus is abroad).


By the way, this applies to both distributing and accumulating funds. In the case of reinvesting funds, the partial exemption applies to the advance lump sum, and in the case of distributing funds, it also applies to dividends. And, of course, if you want to sell fund units (partial exemption on the profit alone).


Oh God, what the hell, do I have to fill out 1 million forms for this now? Nope, fortunately not. The bank does it all automatically. You can sit back and enjoy money saved. You can check your statements to see if there is anything about partial exemption if you hold an ETF. There you can follow the calculation quite well. (2)


"𝐀𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝐋𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐫𝐢! 𝐈𝐜𝐡 𝐡𝐞𝐢ß𝐞 @SharkAce / @meta / @Daxjaeger 𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐡𝐞 𝐯𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝐚𝐮𝐟 𝐠𝐞𝐡𝐞𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐭𝐞 𝐄𝐓𝐅𝐬 🤑🤑🤑 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐟𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐧 𝐚𝐮𝐜𝐡 𝐯𝐨𝐧 𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐓𝐞𝐢𝐥𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐥𝐥𝐮𝐧𝐠?"


Let's take a look. Basically, you have to ask yourself two questions to assess whether the partial exemption applies:


👍 Is my financial product an investment fund?

👍 What is the proportion of shares?


✔️ 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝟏: 𝐈𝐬𝐭 𝐦𝐞𝐢𝐧 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐤𝐭 𝐞𝐢𝐧 𝐈𝐧𝐯𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐟𝐨𝐧𝐝𝐬?


The FAZ.net Stock Exchange Dictionary defines a mutual fund as follows: An investment fund is a special asset managed by an investment company (investment company) that is invested in valuable assets such as shares, bonds (annuities), real estate, commodities and / or derivatives.


If we delve a little deeper into the subject, we will also come across the terms ETC and ETN at some point, in addition to actively managed funds. No, people didn't just mix up letters here and wanted to write ETF, there are some important differences here.


🔵 ETF (Exchange Traded Funds): Exchange-traded mutual funds. (3)

🔵 ETN (Exchange Traded Notes): Exchange-traded bearer bonds that track a reference index. (4)

🔵 ETC (Exchange Traded Commodities): Openly structured securities. Track commodities traded on commodity exchanges. (5)


Incidentally, the umbrella term for all three is ETP (Exchange Traded Products).


So, based on the definitions, we can now see: ETNs and ETCs are NOT investment funds, but debt securities. Thus, they do NOT benefit from the partial exemption. (Sorry. The WisdomTree S&P 500 3x Daily Lev. is an ETN, not an ETF). By the way, 3x leveraged products are not ETFs per se in our EU. Currently, only products with a maximum leverage of 2 can be represented in an ETF. Thus, it is also clear that ETNs and ETCs do not count as special assets, unlike ETFs (6).


✔️ 𝐅𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝟐: 𝐖𝐢𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐜𝐡 𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐀𝐤𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐢𝐥?


This is best read on the provider's site. Using the Lyxor MSCI EM Asia UCITS ETF as an example, we can find info about the equity allocation right here:

https://www.lyxoretf.de/de/retail/products/equity-etf/lyxor-msci-em-asia-ucits-etf-acc/lu1781541849/eur

Here we can read under the item "German Tax Information" how high the equity quota is. If it is above 50%, we can enjoy tax savings to the highest degree.


" 𝐀𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝐋𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐨𝐫𝐢! 𝐖𝐢𝐞 𝐬𝐢𝐞𝐡𝐭 𝐝𝐚𝐬 𝐆𝐚𝐧𝐳𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐢 𝐒𝐰𝐚𝐩-𝐄𝐓𝐅𝐬/ 𝐬𝐲𝐧𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐄𝐓𝐅𝐬 𝐚𝐮𝐬?"


ETFs replicate the index in different ways. Therefore, different replication methods exist. Physical replication is probably considered the classic method. So either the ETF holds the securities of the index 1:1, or it relies on sampling, i.e. a representative selection. There is also synthetic replication. Here, the ETF does not invest directly, but only replicates the whole and guarantees the index return. This is done by means of an exchange transaction (swap). Everything can be read in the factsheet of the ETF, which replication method it is. (7)


And now to the real question: what influence does the replication method have on the partial exemption? Again, it is simply a matter of how high the equity component is. If the ETF consists exclusively of derivatives, then the partial exemption does not apply. So-called fully funded swaps should therefore be avoided.


There are enough synthetic ETFs that hold shares in the custody account and therefore benefit from the partial exemption (8). By the way, our Asia ETF from above is also a synthetic ETF, which benefits from the partial exemption due to its equity quota of 92%.


It is best to check if the ETF is UCITS ("Undertakings for Collective Investments in Transferable Securities") compliant (this is also stated in the factsheet of the respective ETF). My goodness, this factsheet is insane. Calls on the factsheet.). What is this again? These are funds that meet particularly high quality requirements and comply with certain legal requirements of the EU. You often come across the abbreviation UCITS ("Undertaking for Collective Investment in Transferable Securities") as a German term. Among others, the following points apply to UCITS-compliant funds/ETFs:


- Minimum diversification

- No issuer risk (counts as special assets)

- Liquidity guarantee, no maturity limit -> investors can access the investments at any time

- High transparency



Important: UCITS-compliant is not the same as UCITS-suitable! Please note this difference.


Regarding our partial exemption question, it is anyway the case that the swap portion of UCITS-compliant ETFs may not exceed 10% of the fund assets and you are therefore safe. Furthermore, this also excludes ETCs and ETNs. But always reread and check the two questions from above. (9)


In the end, of course, this is all - as always - a question of personal preference and risk tolerance. So everyone has to weigh that up for themselves. The eternal principle applies: higher return opportunities, higher risk.


#etf
#learn

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SOURCES:

(1)https://www.justetf.com/de/news/etf/quellensteuer-mit-etfs-zeit-und-geld-sparen.html

(2)https://www.finanztip.de/indexfonds-etf/investmentsteuerreformgesetz/

(3)https://www.finanztreff.de/wissen/etf/was-ist-ein-etf/5191

(4)https://www.finanztreff.de/wissen/etc-etn/08-was-sind-etns/6948

(5)https://www.finanztreff.de/wissen/etc-etn/01-was-sind-etcs/5963

(6)https://www.justetf.com/de/academy/was-ist-ein-etn.html

(7)https://www.justetf.com/de/academy/replikationsmethoden-von-etfs.html

(8)https://www.bvi.de/faq/faq-besteuerung-von-investmentfonds/

(9)https://www.justetf.com/de/news/etf/die-rechtslage-bei-etfs-das-ucits-regelwerk.html

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I thought you were rich?🤔 And I'm supposed to be a nerd. Is clear Miss ETF
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@leveragegrinding I am, too. I'm just informing you guys. Your nerd lvl is still a bit higher than mine 👀
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@Lorena yes i can't buy anything from that either
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@leveragegrinding Shares 👀
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@Lorena??where can you get them as a gift🌝
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@leveragegrinding Send money via PayPal 🤡
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@Lorena you get nothing
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@getquin me too - is you can liken me for it?
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@ccf yes. A lot to read but very good to know ❤️
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Good to know thanks 🙏
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@ccf 💪😁
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Did you by chance find out in your research why a 3x leveraged product cannot be an ETF in the EU? Whereas a 2x leveraged one is. So why the limit at 2x😅 And great post 🤝 Means I do not have to do anything. Provided the ETF meets the criteria I get the exemption? Could not find anything in a hurry at SC :D
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@SharkAce The following is mentioned: "Strategies that leverage the underlying asset or index at least three times and even allow inverse, leveraged investment strategies are particularly popular in the USA. Neither there nor in Europe, however, can such strategies be mapped with an ETF. " I'm afraid I don't know why that is :/ And yes, you don't have to do anything. The broker does that automatically.
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@Lorena sounds like at some point some people have agreed that 2x is the maximum allowable😅 Yes well you can probably only see if you sell parts of the ETF :D still good to know 👍🏼
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@SharkAce because that is too dangerous. Deka fund with 8% fees is ok though
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@SquirtGame who makes such stupid decisions? stay away from me with bank funds...i get vietnam flashbacks to my early days
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@SharkAce I would argue that almost all investors lose money with it. I think that is one of the reasons.
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@SquirtGame yes but why then 2x "allow" 😅 you could set the limit for leveraged ETFs right away
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@SharkAce i would ban everything directly 🚀
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@SquirtGame everything except the savings book of course
@ccf Thank you!
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A high on leveraged ETFs and your content 🚀 @ccf
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Thank you very much, very informative and useful.
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Not read but is certainly good. @ccf
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Very good contribution! 👍
The answers to the "other questions" can probably be found soon in ZahlGraf's Excellent Adventures on MSW. If you're interested in leveraged ETFs, check out these: https://www.reddit.com/r/mauerstrassenwetten/comments/s71qds/zahlgrafs_exzellente_abenteuer_teil_1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Only man who has understood every post on bogleheads 🧠
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@SquirtGame oh mega, thank you for the link. I'm happy to read along. @Europoor take a look! Oh and @KapriolenSonne
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@Lorena @SquirtGame Thanks to both of you :)
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@ccf Great contribution. Thank you very much :)
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Really cool explanation. I already knew that, but now at the latest many should have an "aha-wow" effect. Thanks for that. 😎👍🏻🥰
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@Cathy great that you already know about it :) thank you!
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@Lorena I really have to praise something like this. I'm quite teacher-impaired. 😅 Also currently with my technician. Understanding something always depends on the person explaining it and how they explain it. There are often millions of pieces of information in many texts. Period. 😅 That doesn't mean that the person reading it has understood it. I had another lesson today where I thought: And you're a teacher? Oh dear. 🙈
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@Cathy That's sweet :) Yes, I understand that! That's what I used to think when I was at school or university :D :D
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@ccf very readable article.
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👍🚀❤️
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Rocket science then? 😳
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@svenleowe SpaceX can virtually pack up 🤡
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@Lorena at 3 o'clock Starship Update live 🚀
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@svenleowe Now it's time to sleep 👀
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Great contribution! @ccf

Now program a website where I enter my ETF and automatically get 👍🏼 or 👎🏻 and you'll be Miss World (ETF UCITS). 👻
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@CryptoPfand you can also just ask me 🌝 @KapriolenSonne make yourself useful 👀👀👀👀
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Own goal 🤡 @Lorena @KapriolenSonne

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... Joking aside - I'll do it myself
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@CryptoPfand as you like, I have fun reading about it :P
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@Lorena if you like, you are welcome to tell me the result - that would be lovely
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@CryptoPfand Well, I'll take care of it later and let you know 🚀
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@CryptoPfand Gladly if @Lorena gives me the briefing for it. I'm just a codemonkey 🐒
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@CryptoPfand All of the funds you mentioned benefit from the partial exemption. This is because they are UCITS-compliant ETFs (question 1 ✅) and to make the picture even more beautiful, they are physically replicating ETFs, i.e. per se without a swap component and therefore an equity ratio of over 50% (question 2 ✅)
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@KapriolenSonne I never work without briefings to my subjects
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@Lorena You generally never work. I'm not your subject 🆘️
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@Lorena Great, thank you! How can I return the favor? Can I give you a returnable bottle?
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@ccf

Just as a matter of principle🚀
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Probably some of the best content I've ever read on this platform, was about to delete it because the portfolio tracking is beyond bugged Update also not since I switched to lynx and had to do it manually
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@HBosch I'm really happy about that, thank you very much! Yes, unfortunately the bugs are annoying, I can understand that very well :/
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Very cool contribution😊
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@TheRealKrschken very nice, thank you :)
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Great contribution. Thank you very much 👍
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@YoshiShepherd thank you :)
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Well explained! Thanks for the info Lorena
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But Lori, what does it look like in Austria? 🦍
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