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Today the limit sell order was executed for the entire stock of the 1st stock I ever bought: $INGA (+3.05%) . I added this stock to my portfolio about 3 years ago. Before that I was only invested in various actively managed funds, ETF, gold and crypto. I went through many ups and downs with this stock. Bought for 10.45 euros a piece. In addition, due to the 10 euro DKB fee, in larger quantities than I now do with Scalable.


First I could observe a sideways trend and be happy about my first dividend. Then came March 2020, Corona and the share collapsed at times by up to 60%. A strange feeling, even though I was quite familiar with the condition from my crypto investments. However, my investment in ING was significantly higher than in crypto a few years ago. Still, I stuck with it because I believed in the company. I even recommended the stock to a friend who caught a very good entry point. Even though ING recovered a bit slower than the rest of the market, I could at least enjoy dividends and a price of 13.50 euros per share in February 2022. However, the second crash came a short time later with the Ukraine war. This was also the time when I first asked myself whether I still believed in the company ...


But why did I choose ING at that time in the first place? No, no metrics, no trust in the CEO, no technical analysis, ... the reason was nerdy: I was setting the organizational course for the company I was working for at the time to enable "DevOps" in our IT. Simply put, a collaborative way of working across all divisions, breaking down silos, automating and reducing bureaucracy. For me, this is an important prerequisite for being able to survive as a company in the future. So I was all the more surprised when I learned that ING, a company from the dusty banking industry where it feels like there are still a bunch of COBOL programmers in every basement, had already been able to establish a DevOps culture. What's more, ING had set itself the goal of organizing itself in the broadest sense according to the Spotify model. In other words, a structure and process organization from a tech startup. I was thrilled. I simply had to invest in a modern company from a dusty sector. The share price was also favorable, so I bought it.


At that time, I was still miles away from strategic asset accumulation, and the same applied to sensible stock selection criteria. In the meantime, however, I have - also thanks to the GetQuin community - a plan that I follow (no, not quite the one from January ๐Ÿ˜…), and accordingly I will gradually rebuild my portfolio. I cover the core of my portfolio with ETFs. With the individual stocks I want to gamble a bit and speculate on yield boosters (works so far also excellent ๐Ÿ“‰). And ING just doesn't fit in there. I can't see myself beating the market with ING. Besides, my selection criteria at the time were ... well ... let's call it "questionable." So away with it!


Overall, ING stock has given me (after taxes and fees) a scant 4% return per year. Actually a good value considering I bought less than a year before the Corona crisis and sold in the middle of the Ukraine crisis. With this in mind, dear ING, I wish you all the best for your further professional and private career and hope that my shares make their new owner happy.


To the GetQuin community a big thank you goes out, without you I would probably still be just investing somehow without any sense. Ask yourself what you want to achieve with your investments, how you can achieve it, work out a plan / strategy and stick to it.

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I just bought ING a few years ago without thinking twice because I have a deposit and account there ๐Ÿ˜‚ still gives a Fuffi a year in dividends๐Ÿ˜
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@Simpson without giving it much thought also applies to me ๐Ÿ˜…. But I don't have my custody account there. Can I actually buy ING shares for free with an ING custody account ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿง Anyway, you're not investing in ETFs. If my portfolio consisted of individual stocks, I could imagine that I would not have sold ING.
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@DonkeyInvestor I can't tell you that, I bought them from onvista because the ing order fees were too high for me at some point ๐Ÿ˜‚
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@Simpson ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
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My first share has long been history (IPO Ferrari). In retrospect, I should have kept it ๐ŸŒ But well ...the first decisions of a stock market career are usually rather semi-good.
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Was an ETF with me in the beginning, since sold until I had a reasonably good basic structure (know).
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@Chrisuonfireles and now you only have shares?
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@DonkeyInvestor Joa, first build up a foundation of dividend stocks and in the meantime I'm looking for penny stocks that have potential. (If time permits)
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@Chrisuonfireles good luck. Would be too time-consuming for me. The performance of the market is enough for me
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@DonkeyInvestor thank you too, that's also a good approach, I would get bored over time. (I owe it to my hobby, I like climbing without a belay)
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Funny, with me just the other way around: Through the community without sense and reason started to invest ๐Ÿ˜‚ Then but eventually followed the (for me) right people ๐Ÿ˜‰
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@six e.g. me ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿš€
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My first stock was Coca Cola ... I then sold at a profit and converted my portfolio to options trading.... But honestly I miss my Coke shares๐Ÿ˜… hope that doesn't happen to you but honestly I don't think that will happen to you either๐Ÿ‘
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@Andreas1991 ๐Ÿ˜‚ Never say never
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@DonkeyInvestor well, if another "Corona" dip comes along, I would say all in๐Ÿคฃ
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@Andreas1991 I've saved enough cash as equity for a property that I might not buy after all ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿš€
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@DonkeyInvestor I like to advise against buying a house, first of all there would be the property tax, compulsory insurance, water costs and then heating costs etc.... Then it's better to invest in cash flow in case you get a bill that doesn't even pay off your nest egg..... But to each his own๐Ÿ˜…
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@Andreas1991 was 100 percent sure about buying a property until a few months ago. I've now looked into it and am now more in favor of renting. I'll write a post about it soon
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@DonkeyInvestor As I said, I had to replace the heating in my house because it was 30 years old but its values are still green (thanks to Germany).... And that costs around 30-50k euros.... I have hard water and had to buy an expensive fine filter which is also worth another 10k because my mother can't remove limescale when you wash her. Then floor repairs.... So I have now paid a total of 100k extra.

Let's move on to a statistic about inheritance. More and more children move away from their parents and then look for an apartment and live in it until they get married. They don't really look after their parents, who are increasingly going into nursing homes/retirement homes.

To be honest, I understand that more and more every day. Luckily I don't have to help my mother too much with getting dressed, I've built a few things for her and she can still walk up the stairs. (Kitchen and dining room 1st floor) but then there are the doctor's visits, administering medication etc. You just have less time for yourself or your partner. I think if it wasn't for my mother, with whom I went from upper middle class to poverty to middle class again, I wouldn't take such care of her.
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@DonkeyInvestor ah then I gladly bought your shares๐Ÿ˜‚ I'm running them now in the savings plan.... Message from today: Jefferies lowers the price target for ING from 14 to 13.7 euros. Buy. well if jefferies says that then I do that
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