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Since I've seen a lot of very young users here lately I wanted to share some uncomfortable facts so no one invests with false hopes.


Investing will not make you rich. (statistically speaking)


I mean rich here not in the spiritual sense like your yoga teacher. But the top 0.1% of the wealth pyramid are meant. Now some will surely say, 0.1% is already very far up, to get into the top 1% is enough for them. Well that is naturally simpler, but who connects with wealth a paid off house and some hundred thousand in fixed assets? Just nobody.


Wealth is represented to the public by opulent estates, expensive cars, yachts and private flights. The top 1% starts at about €1.3 million. For the 0.1% it needs already 4-5 million € and upward. Now I could calculate why you can't / shouldn't own a Lambo, a 20m yacht and a plane with these assets. But like most people on Insta you could rent / charter these things. So where is the problem now?


Well I guess you don't want to wait 40+ years. If you have 10k starting capital at 18 and invest 1k per month as a savings rate with 7% pa it will take >27 years to 1m and >45 years to 4m and then the tax office will come and deduct your taxes for the sale. Surely you could "simply" save more or have more initial capital. The question is how realistic is that on average? Exactly, not really realistic. Individuals will make it, of course, but not everyone. This has not only to do with how hard you try but also who you are and where you come from. Of the 1.5% of the population with assets >€1 million, only 6% live in eastern Germany, 14% have a migration background and 31% are women. At 73%, the majority of working millionaires are self-employed.


It could be countered that low wealth and low income / savings rate can be compensated by higher risk, as this would allow for higher returns. Of course, a 2010 investment in Bitcoin can bring you huge profits with little investment in a relatively short time. Doge or Shiba would be further (terrible) examples. But you also have to ask yourself at what point does investing stop and where does gambling begin. With a lottery ticket you can also make a huge profit in a short time, does that make it an investment? No.


What is now my message, investing is stupid, head in the sand and bang out all the money? Not at all, it is more about having realistic expectations. Because if you start with wrong expectations and at some point you realize that Lambos and yachts are not going to work out, you will stop your savings plan instead of going through with it.


If you constantly pursue realistic goals, you might end up achieving more than you thought at the beginning, even if it's "just" a few more years of retirement.


For those who are not yet in the working world I have attached a video preview. Maybe just retiring earlier is a bit more attractive then.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJW_av0PQXM


Source of the wealth data: https://www.diw.de/sixcms/detail.php?id=diw_01.c.793802.de

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Really a super Beitrag☺️👍 I myself do not really want to be rich,😂 am satisfied with my life ☺️ invest to have more free time in the future, real wealth is free time you have for yourself😁👍, want to reduce the working time in a few years and compensate with dividends 😂 and hope to live on dividends at 50 and only work when I want 😁
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"I can't tell you how to get rich quick; but I can tell you how to get poor quick: namely, by trying to get rich quick." André Kostolany
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Word. And at the moment we are simply in a market where almost everything is rising. If that really changes or it even comes to a sustained bear market, some will certainly lose the desire. I do not exclude myself of course, because I have never experienced something like this and do not know if I can handle it at all 🤷‍♂️ I just want to invest to be a little more carefree in my old age, maybe look for a job somewhere as a porter at 55 and have a quiet retirement. barrier open barrier closed unso
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Amen brother 🙏
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Thank you! Finally someone slams the salmon on'n table ... When I already read posts on Sunday from young fortune seekers who are looking forward to Monday when the stock exchanges open again, then you realize with what unrealistic expectations here some go. The stock market certainly makes you rich and crypto makes you super rich.
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I invest because with me the money is over and I do not put it currently senseless in car or real estate. I also have savings rates, but also the smile of my girlfriend is important to me, for example, the perfect date, ... as a number on the account. I also invest in my human capital and my nerves and do not look closely at every penny. Saving and frugality yes, small beer and enjoy life now but also. Education and training, nice greetings from the university
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Sorry bro, but I can't stand that much realtalk. I'm here to disconnect from reality, here I am someone, this "drive who always takes the stupid levers, makes an ass of himself in the comments, hahaha, yes drive, haha." ... You took away my fantasy of being someone, I'm afraid I'm going to have to block you. No one gets to take away my fantasy.... This post just takes me different hopps. /s 🤡
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Important contribution, really great that you did that 👍 Most "normal" people manage with the invest "only" to supplement their pension and after 45 + years of ackern not have to choose between living and eating (and so they will have a better life than many others) . To be clear about it is important
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Thanks for the post👍 Something like this is also important
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