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Why I slipped into the overdraft facility at DKB


Today a contribution from the category "Learn from the mistakes of others" or, more precisely, from the mistakes of the donkey.


𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐩𝐚𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐞𝐫𝐭?

At the beginning of April, DKB debited "interest for granted overdraft" from my account. This irritated me because I always make sure to keep 10k in my checking account at the beginning of the month and my spending from the checking account has been far from 10k in recent months.


𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐬𝐭 𝐝𝐮 𝐝𝐚𝐧𝐧 𝐠𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐜𝐡𝐭?

To be on the safe side, I did go back through my account transactions, but didn't find anything suspicious. The next thought was then of some form of fraud. But after I took a closer look at the debit, it was clear that it was initiated by DKB itself. So I wrote to the DKB support.


𝐖𝐚𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐃𝐊𝐁 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭 𝐠𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐞𝐭?

First of all, nothing. The answer actually came today, almost a month later. Quote:


"On 04.01.2022 you received some credits from the deposit. However, as shown in the turnover display and indicated in the securities statement, these had a later value date.


Since you have already transferred the amounts on before the actual value date, your account was in debit from the value date."


𝐎𝐤𝐚𝐚𝐚𝐲𝐲𝐲 ...?!

I restructured my portfolio at the beginning of the year. In the process, I sold some stocks and ETF, waited until the sale proceeds showed up in my account (so I would also know right away how much tax was withheld), and then sent the money to Scalable to buy stocks / ETF according to my new strategy.


What I didn't pay attention to: The sales proceeds were indeed posted to my account on 04.01. (posting date) and also my balance in online banking was increased accordingly, but the value date was only 06.01. Since I assumed that my account balance shown in online banking is decisive (which was already increased by the sales proceeds on 04.01.), and not any value date, I transferred the money (> as the balance on my checking account) directly on 04.01. to Scalable. As a result, I slipped into overdraft for 2 days, even though my account had a positive balance.


Uh yeah ... Banks ... that would not have happened with crypto 🤡. Anyway, I learned the difference between booking day and value date and can only recommend everyone not to sell shares / ETF 🚀 or if then wait until the value date has actually arrived in the account before sending the money further. Do not rely on the account balance in online banking (especially if you are with DKB) but also check the value date. In the DKB app, this is the date at the bottom of your turnover display (see screenshot).


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#wertstellung
#learn
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PS with Scalable this can't happen to you in this way (Bader Bank has booked it but in the app of Scalable the amount is also only available for you for transaction when value date).
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@GoDividend That makes a lot more sense to me. What DKB does is technically correct, but not exactly user-friendly. And donkeys like me simply don't have a clue.
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@DonkeyInvestor now already..🥕 for you and one for the nerves 🥕
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As stupid as it sounds a @ccf on your misfortune.... Yes the dear Valuta... Again everyone here what learned (or recalled)
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With the DKB I have often noticed that the displays there are not always correct, or are displayed delayed. Must there also always very careful, because it is not my main account, that there is always enough coverage on it and I wait with back and forth transfers sufficiently.
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@Kathaa true, had this also already with other situation, which were obviously display errors. Particularly susceptible is actually the chart with the coverage of the account.
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Super contribution, I really had no idea about it and am also with the DKB. that would have happened to me 100% also. thank you ❤️
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This has also happened to me at ING. Once and never again. Look at it like: Teaching money 😉
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Am there too and had the exact same case, just glad I didn't transfer it on right away. Thanks for sharing and reminding me. 👍 I would be interested to know if this is also the case with other banks.
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Oh no two days 😭 what did you pay for it? Nothing?
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@Jenmadness was now no great loss, no unnecessary pity 😘
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@DonkeyInvestor oh the banks Did the 2 days influence your credit rating?
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@Plusgeschaeft I hope not that the DKB has reported directly to the Schufa 😂
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@DonkeyInvestor That would be pretty antisocial, but no idea from when something like that becomes relevant 🤷🏼‍♂️😂
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This kind of thing is not reported to SCHUFA. Only the bank's internal risk scoring is permanently affected by account overdrafts beyond the overdraft facility.
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It would generally have been smarter and probably cheaper to transfer the stuff to scalable first and then sell it there.
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@Lunnaris01 Why? Because of a fee of 9.01 euros per position, I don't make a securities account transfer that takes who knows how long 🤷‍♂️
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@DonkeyInvestor 3 days for me, the money itself usually takes 2 days
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@meta had angle brackets at first, but GetQuin removes them. Let's see if we can somehow subvert malicious code
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