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Moin,


I have a question that I am currently stuck on. I am currently investing in the $AUM5 (+0,56%) Amundi S&P500 UCITS ETF (Acc). I started some time ago with the money from surveys.


Much longer I also invest in $H4ZJ (+0,41%) HSBC MSCI World UCITS ETF (Dist).


Now today I wanted to check the allocation again, so what are the largest 10 positions in the ETF. I noticed the following:


Here on Getquin you can display this wonderfully.


In the MSCI World compared to the Amundi it looks like this: (left MSCI, right Amundi)



Apple Thermo Fisher


Microsoft Apple


Amazon Keyence


Tesla Johnson and Johnson (J&J)


Alphabet A Linde


Alphabet B ExxonMobil


MSCI WD IDX DEC2 Humana


UnitedHealth ProcterGamble


J&J Roche


ExxonMobil Amgen



So the Amundi page somehow doesn't make sense. Keyence for example is Japanese. I googled and found out that at de.extraetf.com you can find the Amundi S&P500, but under composition it says:


TRS S&P 500 NO USD. I can now do nothing with it and somehow I was not smarter even with further searches. This TRS I have of course also entered at extraetf (and Google) but then came nothing and Google comes in this regard also nothing.


On the page of Amundi itself I find. However, the composition looks exactly the same as the MSCI World. What would mean that I quasi by the MSCI World and the Amundi at least as far as the first / largest positions exactly the same would besparen.



Can anyone help me with this? Why can't I find a list of the positions in the Amundi S&P 500 and why does the listing at getquin seem to be wrong?



@Kundenservice So the listing of the largest 10 at the $AUM5 (+0,56%) here on Getquin is definitely not correct 😅


@GoDividend how do you handle it? Don't you parse that one too?



Edit: no idea why the entry has pulled apart so much when posting.


Edit2: Maybe a little complicated question, so again specifically: Is the composition of the Amundi S&P500 really exactly the same as the MSCI World (as on their homepage) and why is the information on GQ then wrong?

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@Kundenservice the data of the $AUM5 are not the same as those of the issuer
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@GoDividend Let's pass it on!
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No that was in my cashback deposit Has been exchanged for dividend payer 😅
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Look for the specific ISIN or WKN. If you enter it in the usual portals, you will get exactly this displayed.
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@TheRealWarrenBuffetII I have already done that. But there is no composition for the Amundi anywhere except on the Amundi website itself.

Edit: I got a bit smarter. According to their website, Amundi tracks the MSCI Europe Index. Which is interesting because I want to invest in S&P (i.e. US) and not Europe. And at the moment the composition is the same as the MSCI World, which is also interesting because I want to track the world and not just the US.
So it remains confusing for me.
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@DividendenWaschbaer please post the numbers, then we might be able to help. Are they SWAP etfs?
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@DividendenWaschbaer ok, if it is the one in your portfolio here, it is a swap. that means it is based on the S&P 500 index but not (exclusively) with US stocks. It therefore tracks the index synthetically. More here: https://de.extraetf.com/wissen/was-ist-ein-swap-etf
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@TheRealWarrenBuffetII I have posted the numbers above or edited them again. Getquin is extremely slow for me at the moment and doesn't seem to take everything. There were also a few words deleted or sentences cut off in the middle.

Here again to be on the safe side:
$AUM5 LU1681048804 WKN: A2H573
$H4ZJ IE00B4X9L533 WKN: A1C9KK
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@TheRealWarrenBuffetII Aaaah yes, that makes sense then. Yes, I still have a lot to learn. I didn't know that yet. It shows you once again what you (double) save for as an inexperienced person. And you can see how important regular monitoring is 😅

Many thanks for the help!
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