AlexSch · 2023-06-28T13:06:42.139016Z

How can it be that two MSCI World ETFs one different high dividend yield have? See pictures: $AHYQ and $IWRD

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2 different ETF, 2 different prices, 2 different dividends.

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Sparfuchs@Reinecke

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@Pirat123 he asks why 2 World ETF so for him 2 same ETF from different companies have different dividend yield.

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Unbekannt@Pirat123

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@KleinviehmachtMist but the ETFs are not the same

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Sparfuchs@Reinecke

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@Pirat123 but only @Jesko explained it correctly.

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Jesko@Jesko

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@AlexSch Hello Alex, thank you for your question regarding the dividend yield of the MSCI World. However, you have chosen 2 different indices once the MSCI World ||| and once the "normal" MSCI World. The top position in the MSCI World III is Shell and in the "normal" MSCI World is the top position Apple. Because of the different positions in the indices, there is also a different dividend yield.

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Justus@TacoEnergy

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$ please

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AlexSch@AlexSch

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@TacoEnergy Added these.

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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Presumably different indices being tracked and thus different (dividend) yields.

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AlexSch@AlexSch

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@Staatsmann Don't they both track the MSCI World Index?

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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@AlexSch But it could be that one takes the World Index based on the indexing of DWS and one takes the index based on the indexing of Vanguard etc. Issuers do not have to orientate themselves on the leading index, but also invent their own index with similar names. Otherwise, it could also be due to the replication. One replicates synthetically and the other uses optimized sampling.

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Flo87FFM@Flo87FFM

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@Staatsmann this is not true! MSCI = msci , vanguard tracks ftse for example and books MSCI. Dws is an asset manager and not an index provider. This is related to the price and issued shares

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Staatsmann@Staatsmann

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@Flo87FFM Fact! sorry, I had a complete thinking error apparently. you are right of course!

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Golden Boy@randomdude

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I wouldn't put much stock in the accuracy of such figures. Perhaps the figures refer to different years, for example. Always check other sources.

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Ella Marie Waschbär@DividendenWaschbaer

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The different dividend yield comes of course from the different price. Calculated down, it is 1.10€ for the MSCI World and 1.07€ for the MSCI World III (also different name, by the way). That implies directly also a difference) comes out 1,07€. So that's about right.

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Erich D.@Erich_D

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Explained in more detail here: https://www.justetf.com/de/news/etf/us-quellensteuer-sparen-mit-den-richtigen-etfs.html#l%C3%B6sung

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Benne@CapitalCyclist

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Are they different asset managers, i.e. providers of the ETF?

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Erich D.@Erich_D

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One of the two ETFs is domiciled in Luxembourg, the other in Ireland. This makes a difference in terms of taxation. Example: Irish ETFs pay 15% withholding tax on dividends from the U.S., Luxembourg ETFs usually pay 30% withholding tax. A dividend of 100 USD is paid from the U.S. The consequence of this, taking into account the double taxation treaty: the Irish ETF receives a net dividend of 85 USD, whereas the Luxembourg fund records a net dividend of 70 USD.

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AlexSch@AlexSch

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@Erich_D What is better? So if I pay normal taxes I think no matter, but what if I still have a lot of money in the general loss pot?

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Erich D.@Erich_D

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@AlexSch As a rule, ETFs are held for the long term, and it is always better to take one with an Irish domicile, especially in the case of distributing ETFs with a lot of US content. Most providers have their ETFs in Ireland. I assume your ETF in Luxembourg is from UBS?

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Erich D.@Erich_D

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By the way, this is the reason why many ETFs have their tax domicile in Ireland. You can see it in the ISIN. For Irish ETFs, the ISIN always starts with IE.

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