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8 years stock market

It's been a long time since I bought my first shares. To be precise, it all started on January 23, 2017.


When I look back and think about the shares I bought and sold in the first few months and years and the mistakes I made, it's a bit embarrassing in hindsight😂


But how did it even come about that I decided to take my first steps on the stock market to become the next "Warren Buffett"?


Well, one thing at a time.


Like most of us, I had my first experience with money when I went to the savings bank with my parents and my little sister and opened a savings account with a starting balance of 5 marks.

I can still remember it well when there was a fire at a neighbor's house next door, we had to get dressed quickly and run outside, of course we also grabbed the most valuable thing we had, my sister and I stood there on the street with our piggy banks in our hands, luckily the whole thing turned out well.


We continued to save diligently and our "assets" grew bigger and bigger and we got more and more interest. After years of saving, however, I got weak in 2001 and spent it all on a PlayStation 2, at that time just under 800 marks. Due to vacations and mini-jobs, the savings account got a little fatter again and it wasn't the last "plundering", it was followed by 1500€ for a driver's license in 2004 and 4000€ for a VW Polo in 2005 and I was broke again.

After that I was only interested in the interest and looked for better offers than the savings book and so the first extra account was opened at Ing with just under 2%. For transactions at Ing, I actually had to use a landline phone for the first few years.

When the financial crisis hit in 2008/09, interest rates rose to over 5% and I was able to invest €20,000 for 1 year for an unbelievable 5% fixed-term deposit and was later happy to receive €1000 gross. In hindsight, it was the best time to invest in shares, instead I chased the highest interest rate, followed by an account with DKB and Bank of Scotland. For me, shares were only for gamblers who were constantly buying cheaply and selling expensively and you could lose your entire fortune; the fact that companies could also distribute profits was a foreign concept to me at the time.

I was happy, my savings grew and the interest came regularly. The interest rate continued to fall year after year until I reached 0.01% at DKB and the first reports of negative interest rates appeared.

The constant crises in the media about losing your assets also made me nervous, but in hindsight that was one of the reasons I ended up with shares.


In 2016, I first became interested in precious metals and so I decided to buy 7 ounces of gold and 100 ounces of silver. At the time, I had just under 150k cash and was considering investing further in precious metals. Almost panic-stricken, I looked for alternatives to protect my assets, the real estate was already too expensive for me, although in retrospect they were good deals.

The famous bicycle chain.

So I started looking into shares, mostly through YouTube financial influencers. I read a book about finance years later.

Then I started buying shares in a frenzy. I wanted a high dividend, a healthy payout and a favorable P/E ratio so that I could achieve long-term returns on the stock market. I was fascinated by dividends, interest rates at 0% and Daimler paying a dividend of over 5%? Shut up and take my money, followed by positions in Nestlé and Roche from 🇨🇭und, Engie and Unibail from 🇫🇷. The disappointment was great when the 3% from Nestle only came to 1.5% net, only then did I find out that each country has its own withholding tax.🙈 Fortunately, I was able to sell the aforementioned positions at a profit.

I then continued to invest according to the dividend/cheap P/E ratio principle, and when I bought the position I read the brief fundamental analysis on Finanzen.net 🙈

Dividende✔️Ausschüttung✔️ cheap P/E ratio ✔️

I only came up with the idea of reading the earnings a few years later, which meant that I lost a lot of returns and, for example, an Alphabet, Amazon, Nvidia was simply too expensive according to my strategy. Nevertheless, I managed to buy Apple and Microsoft. With Microsoft, however, the famous P/E ratio came into play again. According to a Youtube financial influencer, the P/E ratio was clearly too high and he sold the position to get in later at a lower price, I decided to do the same🙈


I was also hesitant to put my assets into shares, 50k in the first 3 years, the majority was still in overnight money at 0.01%

The media constantly reported that everything would crash soon, nothing has changed in that respect, it's supposed to come practically any day now. Now when the Corona Crash 2020 came and the world felt doomed and I actually wanted to buy cheaply, I didn't have the cojones to buy strongly. Later I change the strategy to invest the money in the market every month no matter what.


Well, just like in real life, you're always learning on the stock market.


The 8-year share balance sheet is of course all gross

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My conclusion after 8 years

  • Get to know the company and read the earnings before buying a position
  • Don't buy shares just because they pay a high dividend
  • A share with a favorable P/E ratio usually remains cheap in the long term
  • Back winners instead of turnaround candidates
  • Invest regularly, don't wait for a crash
  • Never sell a Microsoft.
  • Or to summarize briefly, buy a World or S&P500 ETF 😂


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Thank you very much ✌️😊

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23 Commenti

Great contribution. Many thanks for your tips! I'm still in phase 1 right now, learning the ropes 😳
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I like your last sentence :)
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My conclusion from your post: 2017 was 8 years ago. 😖
Do you need to remind us? I was still young back then. 😭
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Investing is a journey.

Have you sold or kept the ounces and silver? In other words, have you been diligently moving from one investment to the next or have you left the old ones lying around?
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@Madhatter5566 Everything is still there, I haven't bought any more gold since then. I only added a few silver ounces for fun. I don't plan to sell either.
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@Simpson The idea is not bad either. In the beginning I also stacked gold and silver and left them lying around. To be honest, I'm happy with what gold has been doing, only silver has been bobbing around quite slowly.

With 7 ounces, I don't think I need to do anything.

I've been thinking about moving some of the stuff for a while now. Getting rid of physical stuff is just more difficult and time-consuming than making three clicks in the portfolio. Even if that is sometimes advantageous
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Thank you for your insights 👍🏻
Have you ever gambled with penny stocks?
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@He-Man No, my focus was on dividends😂 a dividend stock where the dividend was safe according to the board of directors but has become a penny stock with a 99% loss 🤣
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It's amazing how much we have in common. Born in '86, same job, blew it all on the PS2 in 2001, blew it all on my driver's license and car in 2004, didn't buy any stocks in 2008 and started investing on January 23rd, today it's been 5 years for me.
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@Paketknecht How crass 😂👍
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@Simpson then it wasn't Bart but Homer who had the twin brother in the attic?
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Thank you for sharing this with us. In hindsight, it almost always turns out that you started too late and made the wrong investments at the beginning. You often hear typical things like low P/E ratios and high dividend yields.

Nevertheless, it shows time and again that it is better to start at all than not to start at all. Nobody invests perfectly at the beginning and already knows what good shares/investments are. Every year you learn a little more and soon you will have found your own style that you feel comfortable with.
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You can find yourself in many things. I am currently in my 4th active stock market year and have a low 2022 behind me. I am now optimizing my holdings in 2025 and getting more and more involved with the companies. Dividends are always good for your own reward system.

I'm confident about 2025 and am steadily building up my portfolio, but I don't have that many savings to invest.

Thanks for the insight
Whow, great post!
Realistic, but very motivating 👍
Your conclusion should be pinned at the top of the "Best of" 🙂
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High dividend, low P/E ratio.

Interesting that our rookie mistakes are so similar 😂
Great post 👍🏻
I am still relatively new to the stock market and therefore have a few questions. I keep hearing that you should "look into" the companies and their profits, and that you should always check the P/E ratio.
As a beginner, I then clumsily enter "figures for company XY" in the Google search bar, only to be completely overwhelmed by the chaos of figures. Hence my question: How do I know what "good figures" are and what a good P/E ratio is? How exactly do you "study" a share/company before investing?
Thanks in advance ✌️
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@Vito69 take a look at the book by Nikolas Schmidlin "Unternehmensbewertung und Kennzahlenanalyse".
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@KevinE Which edition would you recommend or should I read them all?
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@Vito69 I'm not at home at the moment, but I think I still have the latest one. Editions are usually only time updates. So I would probably choose the latest one
Your conclusion says everything there is to say 👍🏻
And if I have to check the performance of a stock every day, I have no confidence in it, so get out of my portfolio ☝🏼
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Great contribution!
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Broke in 2005 and €150000 again in 2016 is a savings rate of €15000 per year. Already very strong
@Simpson possible with a normal job, or in combination with part-time jobs?
Thanks!
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