Especially point 10 should end any discussion in the field of individual transport with reference to e-fuels, "clean diesel" etc. Only in terms of efficiency, the BEV is physically the best option. Everything else has too many conversion losses, which you also can not switch off due to physical principles.
(Even today, gasoline and diesel are actually nonsense due to the energy input during production...) And the "argument" of range for BEVs in private transport is also very thin. The average worker in Germany drives less than 50km a day and even a small Renault Zoe would be absolutely sufficient in terms of range.
(Even today, gasoline and diesel are actually nonsense due to the energy input during production...) And the "argument" of range for BEVs in private transport is also very thin. The average worker in Germany drives less than 50km a day and even a small Renault Zoe would be absolutely sufficient in terms of range.
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@Staatsmann I'll talk about diesel and gasoline in the next post regarding the oil and gas giants. Energetically, it really makes less sense, but that's not the starting point of oil refining these days anyway. Even if many think that.
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@Staatsmann The model chosen for the presentation certainly underlines the arguments mentioned in point 10. However, it provides much basis for discussion. 70%-90% efficiency ??? Other sources give 65%-70%. It is assumed that the electricity for the BEV is produced from 100% sun&wind... is that so ? The electricity mix in Germany says something else... and then the funny discussion can start.
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Even if you look at the current electricity mix, combustion vehicles are physically behind BEVs, if you consider efficiency and environmental damage, especially since most people are only concerned about the exhaust gases from the actual combustion, but ignore the vast amounts of energy and environmental damage, if any, to produce gasoline/diesel in the first place.
Even if you look at the current electricity mix, combustion vehicles are physically behind BEVs, if you consider efficiency and environmental damage, especially since most people are only concerned about the exhaust gases from the actual combustion, but ignore the vast amounts of energy and environmental damage, if any, to produce gasoline/diesel in the first place.
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@Staatsmann Correct. In this model, however, the production chain for hydrogen is considered and completely calculated to be green. Whereas with electricity, insane assumptions are made and the consideration actually only begins with the full battery, which is then run down under ideal conditions. This is similar to the presentation that the energy transition costs households no more than a scoop of ice cream.
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