With all the funds I ask myself: What is the goal behind it? Why just these funds? Personally, I would put the entire sum in a world index and done. No rebalancing necessary and the management fee is only a fraction. For example, $VWCE or $VWRL Alternatively, only the $IWDA. Everything else would be too complicated for me personally for their own child.
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@Staatsmann Why exactly these funds? I was "turned on" here and there. The goal is to save for my son. I have made the beginning, now I want to look to save sensibly. Is there a broker which offers Kinderdepot's? I find there unfortunately only Robo-Advisor, which as you know invest your money yourself.
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@FatihHan91 You won't get far with new brokers. Consorsbank or Comdirect have something like that, I think. Deutsche Bank possibly also. Then look at all the funds, how you can possibly get out of there. They cost a lot of money and every management and administration fee costs returns.
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@Staatsmann with the banks fall but then again extreme fees or? Yes I'm in it wants to cancel the DekaBank and Barmenia. How Ginmon invests (Robo-Adviso) I actually like so far...
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@FatihHan91 Savings plans, especially on ETF at "Junior Depots" are often free of charge. In the long term, however, they are cheaper than the fees for any funds.
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@Staatsmann Super thanks for the informative answer. I'll make me there times smarter 👍👍
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@FatihHan91 ING also offers junior custody accounts (with free ETF savings plans).
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•@KevinC Good to know! Was not the case a few years ago. :)
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@Staatsmann It just depends, I guess.
If you create a strategy for yourself anyway (hopefully with more than €50/month :)), I don't think there's anything wrong with simply creating a mirror for the child.
Even if it is of course even less important for the child where it is invested (as long as it is sufficiently diversified)
If you create a strategy for yourself anyway (hopefully with more than €50/month :)), I don't think there's anything wrong with simply creating a mirror for the child.
Even if it is of course even less important for the child where it is invested (as long as it is sufficiently diversified)
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@MarkusF But the fact is that very few investors beat the index with their strategy, so why should I risk giving my child a worse return based on my idea of outperforming the index? :)
If you manage to beat the World Index continuously for 18 years:
Fire away! 🚀
Otherwise, please don't drag the child into your own arrogance.
If you manage to beat the World Index continuously for 18 years:
Fire away! 🚀
Otherwise, please don't drag the child into your own arrogance.
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Well, 70% World, 30% EM would be a strategy
100% World is a strategy
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Putting money into individual stocks CAN be a strategy - but especially with the horizon ~17 years decreasing (driver's license, studies, etc.) rather less recommendable.
Especially not with "other people's" money.
I also invest in individual stocks but no more than 20% - the rest is in ETFs (World/S&P500 + EM - not some fringe ETFs with 3 stocks...)
Why 17? Because you realistically need some of the money BEFORE you turn 18 if you want to drive a car on your 18th birthday.
I don't know of any driving school that still offers payment at the end.
I had to pay at least €1k in advance in 2009 (I also had to do mine in a town in the middle of nowhere where I was stationed - so it was quite expensive at €2,500 incl. 1* test).
Well, 70% World, 30% EM would be a strategy
100% World is a strategy
...
Putting money into individual stocks CAN be a strategy - but especially with the horizon ~17 years decreasing (driver's license, studies, etc.) rather less recommendable.
Especially not with "other people's" money.
I also invest in individual stocks but no more than 20% - the rest is in ETFs (World/S&P500 + EM - not some fringe ETFs with 3 stocks...)
Why 17? Because you realistically need some of the money BEFORE you turn 18 if you want to drive a car on your 18th birthday.
I don't know of any driving school that still offers payment at the end.
I had to pay at least €1k in advance in 2009 (I also had to do mine in a town in the middle of nowhere where I was stationed - so it was quite expensive at €2,500 incl. 1* test).
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