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Tell me you have too big an ego without telling me you have too big an ego:


https://max-otte-fonds.de/max-otte-bitcoin-kritik/


The good Max Otte has finally found Bitcoin's flaw! As a critic for years, he was enraged by the constant new highs in the Bitcoin price.


Now he recently read the new book "Hijacking Bitcoin", in which Roger Ver, formerly known as the "Bitcoin Jesus", describes his view of the "Blocksize Wars" and claims that Bitcoin has been hijacked.


Between 2015 and 2017, a significant lobby formed around Roger Ver, also known as the "Big Blockers", who wanted to change Bitcoin by increasing the block size limit of Bitcoin (1MB per block). Almost all of the major institutional players at the time, such as Coinbase and Grayscale, were involved, as well as around 80% of all miners.


Behind closed doors on May 22, 2017, the so-called "New York Agreement", it was decided that the block size limit would be increased, resulting in a hard fork of the network. Almost all of the institutions in the "big blocker" camp were involved, but no one from the "small blockers" was invited.

https://dcgco.medium.com/bitcoin-scaling-agreement-at-consensus-2017-133521fe9a77


The big blockers called for the block size limit to be increased so that Bitcoin could be used quickly as a means of payment. The larger the blocks, the more transactions could have been executed per block.


But what would have been the fatal consequence?

Due to the large blocks, the blockchain would have quickly grown into a data monster.

Today, thanks to the block size limit, anyone can operate a Bitcoin fullnode (node) at home with a small mini-computer. This full node can be seen as a voting right in the network, as each individual can decide for themselves which updates to the Bitcoin network to install on it - and which not.


If the blockchain were many terrabytes in size, it would probably be difficult for private individuals to afford to operate such a node.

-> The network would have become increasingly centralized.


But which players would have had the capacity to do so?🤔

The institutions that wanted the large blocks, of course. Basically, the institutions tried to take control of the network (not the other way around!) and would have been able to determine the rules of the network in the long term.


Long Story Short: The people with their nodes did not install the update at the time and did not bow to the institutions.

The fork of the network $BCH (+1,9 %) was created, which today has no economic relevance compared to Bitcoin. The miners were forced to remain in the conventional Bitcoin network, as they would have earned nothing in a network without users.


This event has shown how resilient the Bitcoin network is to such "hostile takeovers".


Have a nice evening!

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Thank you, that's an exciting story. The fact that the network centralizes with large blocks wasn't really on my radar. But of course it sounds logical
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@vise72 can recommend the book "The Blocksize War" by Jonathan Bier for the detailed story :)
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Quote: Ver is therefore emphatically NOT a conspiracy theorist.
However, the good Max Otte presents himself as one to me here. 😜
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@sc1 Also thought the good Max Otte is in favor of a free market... but apparently only as long as it fits his narrative passt🤷‍♂️
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Otto used to be my YouTube mentor a few years ago with krall and Friedrich ... :-) but that quickly changed with his active funds Die Dreck sind.... I really like him and he has a terrific, broad knowledge.
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@Testo-Investor Sure, but as is so often the case with Bitcoin, people's cognitive dissonance is the problem. Admitting to yourself that you were wrong is difficult. That's why people are desperately looking for reasons to maintain their own narrative.
I was an absolute Bitcoin critic myself for years... the way to get there, to lower your own ego and admit that you were wrong, is difficult - but it's worth it :)
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@stefan_21 of course, but we are developing and evolving and that is the big difference .... That's also the problem, that 90% of 60-70
year olds still vote spd... that's why the big turnaround is coming soon .... 5-10 years ...
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@Testo-Investor I live in Bavaria, where everyone votes for the CSU because they have done so for the last 40 years :D
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@stefan_21 really bad like that.... "because we've always done it" My father always drove the new car in front of the tree, so I do it too :D
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What kind of Dirk Müller 2.0 is this again?
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What economic relevance does Bitcoin have, please? It is not used as a currency because transactions are expensive and traceable at all levels, it is purely an object of speculation. The only economic relevance it had was to those who sold you the shovels and electricity to mine it.

In my opinion, if you limit the number of transactions, you completely take yourself out of the running as a "currency". How else is it supposed to absorb the number of transactions if someone really wanted to use it?
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@PowerWordChill not yet in force, eh? So for now it's just hot smoke and the second layer would, in my opinion, almost be a splintering?
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@Madhatter5566 Ask yourself why Bitcoin is the 10th largest asset by market capitalization and tell me why that has no economic relevance.

The network has to be slow and it has to finance itself in the long term through transaction fees. Bitcoin focuses on decentralization and security. Bitcoin can scale in 2nd layer technologies such as Lightning. This means that transactions cost almost nothing and you can also use it to pay for your coffee (which I have often done, by the way).

Bitcoin is not a "currency", that is correct. However, unlike the currencies of the states, Bitcoin is voluntary. Anyone can use it, no one is forced. However, you are forced to use the euro.

To become money, Bitcoin must fulfill the 3 functions of store of value, medium of exchange and unit of account. We are well on the way to fulfilling the Store of Value. In order to ever fulfill the other two, it MUST first become a store of value. Otherwise it will not become a means of transaction and certainly not a unit of account.

Bitcoin is only 15 years old and you criticize it for not being used as a currency (which, by the way, it already is to some extent today) and I always ask myself with such statements what exactly you imagine something like Bitcoin should look like. Should it fall from the sky, not be dependent on any central authority and be used immediately by everyone in the world? No, it's a bottom-up movement that takes a very long time.
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@Madhatter5566 The Lightning Network is of course already "in force". Transactions in the Lightning network are also much more anonymous than on-chain transactions. Lightning is also not the only 2nd layer technology - but at the moment it is the most widely used.
https://mempool.space/de/lightning
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@Madhatter5566 A suggestion from me: Get involved with the Lightning Network, send me an Invoice and I'll buy you a beer😉 Then you too will be in possession of the scarcest commodity in human history.
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@Madhatter5566 Bitcoin will live longer than you. The Bitcoin network will outlive you.
@stefan_21 I asked about the economic relevance. Don't blurt out a lot of text without even answering the question.

My God, these Bitcoin disciples
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@Madhatter5566 You just don't understand the point and are trying to make a name for yourself with your comments. Maybe it's also because of your name "Mad Hatter" :D
@stefan_21 All I find it that is more in a beta state!? Its a proposed solution but not wide spread.

And i dont think its the same as working directly in the Blockchain itself.
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@Madhatter5566 You claim that Bitcoin has no economic relevance because the transactions are slow and expensive. That's exactly what I answered.

You're not exactly creating a basis for discussion with "My God, those Bitcoin disciples".

You obviously don't know a lot of things - like the Lightning Network, for example - but you're also not open to learning anything and then I can't help you either :)
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@Cash-Flow-Cow and if I read such nonsense from you, I'm out.
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@Testo-Investor Your comment, photo and nickname just fit perfectly 💉🙈💉
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@Spoon666 yes normal complete credibility :)
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@Cash-Flow-Cow I have to say, with my democratic streak, I would only vote AFD. There is currently no alternative in GERMANY. People who have something against it should think democratically and simply vote for what they think for themselves. Discussions are more than okay, but ranting against the MAJORITY like this is pretty stupid. You can just tell who wants to justify their GEZ contributions here. Fortunately, I no longer live permanently in Germany. 🇩🇪 👋🏼🤐
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@Cash-Flow-Cow is difficult as a person who has only lived in the country for 6 years.
But there we see the superficial discriminatory streak of this left-wing radical society. But thanks for the confirmation. Over and out. 🦄
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@HyFive Was that supposed to be satire? Anyone who cares about democracy can never vote for the AFD or has never studied German history and how the Nazis came to power. With the AFD, it's goodbye democracy! I also find it difficult to vote for the old parties at the moment, but then you just switch to a smaller, more electable party. Never ever AFD - and for me as a woman anyway.
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@Kamikazefrau What comes after democracy?
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@Kamikazefrau very superficial opinion, but I understand, but the story is not a looping track. I'm only interested in the business side of things in GER. So vote for what you want.
I'll stick with the AFD and you can take refuge in history and continue to believe in things. It's not democratic and free of opinion for nothing. 🥴
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