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FRAUD: Network Marketing / Multilevel Marketing

I know that for many of us this topic is already completely clear. Unfortunately, however, there are still an alarming number of people who get carried away with these systems - in the belief that they can make big money with crypto or forex trading.


We can probably agree that MLM businesses selling beauty products have already plummeted. Many have realized that they can no longer climb the pyramid because there are simply no more new members to recruit. But then came the big crypto boom of 2021 - and everything started all over again!


First of all: If you $BTC (-0,15 %) , $ETH (-0,14 %) etc., you don't need any special purchase recommendations, trading venues, sales partners, coaches, mentors, "uplines" or whatever the heck they're called. You can register with Coinbase, Bitpanda, Relai or other reputable providers (there are numerous independent reports on these).


I know there are often great predictions that - if you work with the "right partner" - you simply have to copy all the trades and then make a lot of profit. You'll supposedly get rich!

But that should set alarm bells ringing for everyone:


Nobody has a crystal ball and can time the market exactly!

If I was really that profitable, why would I make my trades available to the public for €50-100 a month - and thereby jeopardize my profitability?



What is also very popular: so-called ICOs, which are mainly sold in the crypto sector. A value is then suggested on a non-publicly traded site (+700% profit), but this cannot be paid out - instead there is a waiting period of 5-7 years.

Anyone can invent such nonsense, generate a fantasy value that does not exist in reality. Selling is simply not possible - but that doesn't matter because the "profit" is supposedly already there. You just have to wait... and ideally invest even more. And maybe bring in one or two more people to make even more profit. Can you see that for yourself?


Why are these systems legal, even though the product is supposed to be the main focus (which is complete nonsense), when it's purely about recruiting people - proven many times over!


It is and remains a fact that nobody wants to give you anything.

Yes, I know - the false promises of winnings can be tempting. But the following rule always applies:

If it's too lucrative, it usually has a bland aftertaste!


Keep your hands off it!

Invest passively instead - or simply buy your shares and co. from reputable providers where you can sell at any time - without 200 pages of terms and conditions. You also don't have to recruit all your family members.


Stay safe!

If you want, I can also go into the subject in greater depth.


#mlm
#betrug
#scam
#krypto
#aktien
#etf

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Someone's doing the right thing here! Especially in times of GPTs and Groks, you can get all the knowledge for free! Learning by doing! And practice risk management! Learn to listen to yourself and not to external people. Great post... thanks for that
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@DerApotheker7 Thank you dir👍🏼
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@DerApotheker7 But be careful when using AI for topics that are not asked about very often. ChatGPT does not state whether it is 100% sure of its answer (logically, it cannot really know).
An example: 1-2 years ago, GPT was still a pretty poor source of reliable knowledge in the field of quantum computing.
I can well imagine that this is also the case for "less complicated" topics that are simply not asked about often enough.
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Good post, but I don't think the people it's aimed at are on here...
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@gamlasvensk You never know😅Trz. It's an exciting topic and I'm going to explore it further.
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@RenditeRudin If you end up making a course out of it and people book with you, then you've dribbled the system 😅

I wonder if it also works as a snowball? Each participant can then run their own courses to train other "consultants" and you get commission?

😁
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@gamlasvensk haha😂 Are you interested in my new course "How to make a course"?! For 1k€? if you bring 3 more you get a 20% discount?😜
This may be a sensitive subject, but I am convinced that we are doing far too little to create a basic understanding of finance. This really should at least be addressed in schools: "How do I save? "Which ways can I invest? ,... Not discussing this, especially in these times, is absolutely negligent! It is above all the "young" and the "old", i.e. those who are just starting out in working life and those who are about to (or already) retired, who are particularly susceptible to scams like MLM. I see confrontation therapy as a preventative necessity, especially for the former, so that they don't feel completely powerless with a low salary. "I only earn 1500 net, so I can't buy shares!" and similar statements are not uncommon among young people who don't understand that this is the reason why they should start early. I was lucky enough to have a class teacher who at least once addressed the issue of over-indebtedness through consumer credit and took an hour to explicitly warn against flights of fancy a la "My job is safe, I'll pay for it somehow!" using case studies.
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@DynasticGrind That's exactly how I see it so👍🏼 Our system still has a lot of room for improvement... unfortunately. I will stay tuned!
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@RenditeRudin I remember what a high I had (by my standards) when I got my first payout. I went out for a meal with colleagues and had to withdraw money. I'm standing in front of the counter and see 800(!) euros on the display... I didn't dare to withdraw more than I wanted to spend anyway. That was €30. My buddy said: "Dude, is that enough for you?" and I said "Sure! -He then said, 'You've got hundreds of euros in your account now but you're only going to get 30 for tonight? I think this way of thinking is a huge problem and the start of the downward spiral a la "I have X amount, so X amount can go", which causes a lifetime of liquidity bottlenecks and a lot of misery.
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Nowadays and with little knowledge of the subject matter, I ask Chat Gpt, for example, what it would suggest as an investment with certain criteria such as duration, risk tolerance and investment amount at the present time (price slumps due to Trump) and pull out information that I consider important as a newcomer. Sure, no guarantee either, but reassuring... 😊
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@Steppenwolf_66 Unfortunately, not everyone thinks that far ahead yet..🥲
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Pump and dump schemes, which were particularly popular in the crypto sector, are also very popular.
There is a small group of insiders who invite many other people to a group (usually Telegram or Discord) and explain the following to them:
- A coin with a very low market cap is determined at random on a regular basis and as soon as the coin has been determined, all members should buy at once to drive up the price and lure other people (outsiders) into a pump and dump.
- The members of the group could then sell high

The thing is: the coins are not chosen at random, but selected (and bought) by a few insiders beforehand and those in the group are actually spammed (as exit liquidity) instead of the outsiders.
This usually works several times, as insiders then post their huge profits in the group and then tell the losers something like: "You got out too late" etc.

This was once so popular that the SEC got involved, but you can hardly ban this approach
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@SemiGrowth Also a very exciting area, I will add something more posten👍🏼👍🏼
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Written like a lion, but I think @Ganma S. is 99.99% right with his thoughts
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As long as there are stupid and greedy people, there will be scams like this. It never stops, it just gets different labels and stories.

I never feel sorry for the victims - it's those who deserve it who get it, even if that sounds harsh.
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@Charmin In the end it counts as learning money😶
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Two people in my family also do this (aloe vera stuff) and it's really scary how they market it as the holy grail 🤣 and funnily enough everyone always wants to emigrate to Dubai 🥲 it's too much brainwashing 🥲🥲
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@AnneS Man... Have you ever looked for the objective conversation? It's just such a shame what time & money is wasted for nothing. I'll do another, much more in-depth post to analyze this scene even more.
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@RenditeRudin NO 🤣 they are so out of touch... every conversation eventually leads to this "you will quickly become financially free" company 🥲🥲🥲 it's scary... you also totally notice how friends and family turn away 🥲 the next goal is: sell house and farm and register main residence in Dubai 🤓
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@RenditeRudin and this: if you don't get in, it's your own fault 🤣 you're all just jealous 🙃
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@AnneS I would never want to move to this artificial Dubai. I just don't understand why they all identify Dubai with wealth... When there are so many more beautiful places in the world😶
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@AnneS that's the worst, haha but in a few years you can say "you should have invested!" and not "enslaved" yourselves
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@RenditeRudin phew, if they knew how much money I have in my portfolio 🤣🥲 I've never mentioned a word 🤣 they only see their business 🙃 Shares are gambling (now even more frowned upon thanks to Trump)
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@RenditeRudin I don't understand that either 🙃 but the last time I dared to ask about taxes, all I got was "first register in Dubai and then go on a trip around the world" - very smart, isn't it!
And I'm certainly the last person to say don't do it... but an aloe vera business like this is 0 sustainable 🥲 the money from the house is burned and then comes the big awakening 🥲🥲🥲🥲
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@AnneS Talk is silver, silence is golden! Exactly so👍🏼
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@AnneS I know people who live in Dubai and they have now had to admit that it's not really as nice as everyone thinks. Now they can't get rid of the house, the tax authorities are breathing down their necks and there are many other problems on the list. Well, in a few years we can watch the Spiegel Tv documentary about the Dubai weirdos who are coming back hahah😂😂
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@RenditeRudin That's exactly what I think ☺️ if you really have a lot of money, you can go there... but for me the heat would be nothing 🥲 I also think it's more appearance than reality 😌
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And then this follows:
https://getqu.in/JXJd72/

"How to make money with money"
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Yes, why are the Crytobros still legal? I have no idea,
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@Madhatter5566 Crypto in itself is great (i.e. btc) but these fraudulent companies should all be shut down.
@RenditeRudin Why should BTC be top? How many coins did Satoshi get? By how much?
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@Madhatter5566 Personally, I think btc is a great addition to the portfolio, I don't want to talk about tokenomics and co. right now because we'll probably be discussing it for an hour😂
@RenditeRudin So you don't want to talk about enrichment and such. Aha Aha. I'm not surprised. But write that Btc is top. Absolutely without constant hacks, cases of fraud and 80 billion enrichment by the inventor. Aha Aha. By the way, there's nothing to exchange. The matter is relatively clear.
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@Madhatter5566 I see it completely differently, but I realize you are very firm in your opinion and there is no point in discussing it anyway :)
@RenditeRudin How much Copium did you take to see 80 billion in enrichment in a totally different way?
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