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Start small with a 10g bar.

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Compró 0,353 a 2146,09 €
757,01 €
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Where do you buy these?
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@depotfinanzen Normally you can buy them immediately from any reputable jewelry dealer,
With me, for example, up to 100 grams without an appointment, they always have something in the safe. And reputable ones will always sell it to you at the current daily rate.
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@depotfinanzen The same bar would have cost €30 more on the internet than locally, but you can also order it
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@Jico and at a bank too?
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@depotfinanzen Banks sometimes also sell gold, but I would not recommend this as, for example, the savings banks sell gold bars at a much higher price than they are worth because of the design of the cash.
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@depotfinanzen Yes, but with higher fees than at the gold dealer
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@Seebi and how do I sell it again for money ?
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@depotfinanzen at a bank or a gold dealer, just like you buy gold.
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@Dividendenopi and I don't pay taxes on profits, or how is that?
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I also have gold, but as 750 jewelry 😊 I think gold is beautiful, I always have it with me and it keeps its value
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Just a side question: since the pure gold price doesn't fit for certain products - in my case Krugerrands - how do you manage your holdings here? I have the problem that I can "buy" it as a transaction, but then I always have to maintain the purchase price or the current value manually. Which also means that I can probably only have one position (e.g. Krugerrand 1/2 oz.), which I would then have to add up - otherwise I would have to maintain the current value for n entries... I hope I have been able to formulate this clearly...
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@azapf1972 I have the same problem. I wanted to enter it but it was too much work for me.
I have bars, Krugerrands and nuggets.
I thought about simply entering the total weight but of course that would distort the result.
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@Hotte1909 Well, that makes two of us 🫣
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@azapf1972 How do we get on now 😀
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@Hotte1909 So, since it's getting too tedious for me with the Krugerrand, also because I haven't found a way to track the individual purchases, I've now switched over and only record the pure gold $965515 in the fine ounce stock. This is not 100% accurate, but since the coins cost or yield a different price depending on the dealer anyway, any manual tracking would also be inaccurate... We'll see...
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@azapf1972 That's more or less what I had in mind. But I have to weigh it first 😀 then I'll only have the diamond problem...
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@Hotte1909 Attention, please do not overload the scales ;)
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@azapf1972 Unfortunately, it's not that much 😀
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I can recommend the Philoro or Xetra-Gold savings plan :)
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At the all-time high 👌🏻
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@derteufel And? I started buying gold (physically) in 2011, i.e. at the ATH at the time (and kept buying more). I sold everything at 2,300 and made a profit of around 70 percent. It certainly wasn't a huge hit, but I think it was a good return for a rock-solid, conservative investment.
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@Charmin Yes, if you pursue a very conservative strategy, that's ok. Returns are just very poor. I see more opportunities and security in a broad-based, long-term ETF. Gold falls in "crises" just like everything else.
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@derteufel I think 70 percent in 12 years is anything but bad for the conservative part of a portfolio. I wasn't 100 percent in precious metals.

And gold tends not to fall in crises, but to rise. Gold is at its weakest when the economy is booming and the global situation is stable.
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If I take the chart of gold and any index, gold falls in value in the same way. Look at ditcom, the financial crisis, corona, to name just the most recent events. But you can also take the Korean War or Iraq. It doesn't matter at all. The money you have/had in gold would certainly have yielded more if it had been invested in a good ETF, for example.
But note: I don't want to demonize the "commodity view". Everyone has their own strategy and that's fine. It's all good :-)
@derteufel The Ath argument means that you never get in on winners, you only get in on companies/sectors/commodities/crypto that are going down. The downturn usually has a reason, and so does the Ath.
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Where do you keep it?
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I have a precious metal savings plan. Up to 200 € / month, the savings plan is cheaper than buying physical. Small bars are also relatively more expensive than large bars. With the savings plan, you buy a share of a 10 kg bar, which is then booked to the precious metal deposit. The bars themselves are stored in a high-security vault at the Landesbank.

I currently hold a maximum of 15% of my assets in precious metals
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@sasteron I always pay the same gold price for my bars, whether it's 10g or 1000g, the gram costs me the same.
@Jico Where do you buy it?
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@sasteron At my local jewelry retailer
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A little gold and silver doesn't hurt - but for me only physical! It looks great and doesn't lose any value! Plus *conspiracy theory* you can always pay with it 👍🏻
I overweighted it for a while but later bought a kitchen with some of it (€8,000 stake and €10,000 proceeds). Can live with it quite well. The rest is enough for emergencies
I have a savings plan with Degussa. You can have saved gold physically paid out if you want.
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@hero333 Bitcoin > shiny stone😆
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