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Moin,


I would like to share my portfolio with you. Maybe you have one or two ideas on how I can optimize the whole thing.


Let me start with myself:

I am 28 years old, an engineer and earn around €3500 net per month. I also receive one-off payments such as an annual bonus, vacation pay, Christmas bonus, etc.


I save €1000 a month + one-off payments & dividends, so I end up with around €20k a year.


About my securities account:


I started saving about 5 years ago and was very naive at first. My mistakes are evidenced, for example, by my $GAZP Gazprom position, which I unfortunately did not sell in time. Unfortunately, I can no longer sell it for well-known reasons, which is why it is still displayed here as a memorial and distorts my return a little...

Basically, I let myself be guided too much by supposed "experts" and my feelings. I no longer want to make these mistakes.


My strategy:

My goal is to build up as much wealth as possible over a longer period of time (at least 25 years). In future, my strategy should be to hold 65% in broadly diversified ETFs, 20% in individual shares, 10% in BASF and 5% in crypto.


$BAS (-0,75 %) has a relatively high weighting. The background to this is that as an employee here I benefit from the employee program and can achieve a good return through incentive shares, even if the share price remains rather weak.


With regard to individual shares, I would only like to invest in "quality stocks" in future, such as $V (+0,02 %) (VISA), which have a good risk/return ratio and have performed well in the long term in the past. I want to reduce gambles to a minimum (1% of the portfolio value), as greed is not known to be a good driver for good decisions. Dividend stocks will no longer be a focus, as I want to build up assets and don't need any additional funds on top of my salary. I can always adjust this for retirement as soon as a monthly cash flow is required ;)


Perhaps you have one or two constructive comments on my portfolio and my strategy in particular.


https://getqu.in/cvIpma/

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Hi,
Nice Portfolio!
I would sell some Basf stocks and buy Bat instead :)
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@aginvest haha ok, fair invest
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Nices Portfolio👍
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One idea would be to sell the Basf after the lock-up period and switch to the World.
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Yes, I've already thought about that. But I think it makes more sense at the moment to sell the incentive shares that I get every year and use the money to buy new "plus" and "double plus" packages. So if I sell them on the same day as the new shares are booked in, I will receive a certain proportion of the shares as a gift.

Background: At BASF, part of the bonus can be used for such packages. Up to two double plus packages (10 shares each), which yield 1 share each for 10 years, and unlimited plus packages, which yield 1 share every 2 years. If I buy 50 shares every year (2 ++ & 3+ packages), I receive 35 shares as a gift every year. If I sell them at the same price, I only have to pay for 15 of the 50 shares, plus of course taxes and the cash value advantage.
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@MoKi28 for the first time. Interesting. Might make more sense, you're right.
@MoKi28 note fifo, when you sell, Commerzbank will not differentiate between packages of ten and incentive shares.
This means that you will buy a tenner package entitled to incentives and will no longer receive incentive shares.
Greetings from an Aneliner
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@Impeega good advice, then it only makes sense to sell the first shares after the 10 years.
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I am now completely new to the stock market. I must honestly say that it is extremely difficult for newcomers to get a good overview... or to start profitably without luck... I've been reading up for weeks or months now and I still feel the same as at the beginning... everyone just has their subjective opinion, everyone says something different, everyone writes something different... one does it this way, the other does it that way...

So I find it totally difficult... unfortunately
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@Alextyo7 "In the stock market" it's like at the doctor's, 5 doctors 10 opinions. There are very general principles of action that you should follow. You can have them explained to you at www.Finanzfluss.de or elsewhere, for example. In general, you should start with ETFs that are broadly diversified, such as one of the MSCI World ETFs, although there are also many differences: https://www.finanzfluss.de/etf/index/msci-world/
Investing in individual stocks is a game of roulette, even with good fundamental analysis and chart technology. The risk here can be reduced again through broad diversification, whereby you are then again more in the direction of an ETF in terms of content, only with your own weighting and orientation.
I can also recommend the articles by Volker Looman from the FAZ, but they are behind a paywall: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/finanzen/thema/volker-looman

There is no guarantee of starting profitably and without luck anyway. It is also impossible to plan the perfect time to start.
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What industry are you in, if you don't mind me asking?)
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Chemie
@user1d7gf8465j461735 Ludwigshafen, more than enough BASF in the depot, 1200€ per month equals 30% of salary...... So I would guess chemistry
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I like your thoughts. I'm not quite sure whether your portfolio fits in with this.
1) I would take the incentive shares as a maximum and then reallocate them quickly.
2) The ACWI is too underperforming for active asset accumulation. Historically and systematically. More QQQ and BTC would be possible here. Perhaps not immediately, but in the longer term 20% each would make a difference.
3) If you are actively trading anyway, then you can also think about diversifying across different strategies. E.g. 3xQQQ or BTC combined with SMA200 can also be something. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2741701
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I don't think the figures quite fit. You mention a savings rate of €1,200 in your profile, but say that it's currently €20k / year (€1,666 / month).
What about the dividends? Are they reinvested? If not, these are withdrawals from the custody account.

Otherwise: you did everything right to invest so heavily at such an early stage. I only started at 28 and had to work really hard to have a satisfactory portfolio (for me) for my age.

If I were you, I would think about where exactly you want to go. "Building up assets" is not very specific. You're probably not saving for the sake of saving.
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@KevinC You're right, I'm currently saving around €1000 via a savings plan. On top of that, I reinvest around €200 per month in dividends. I get to the 20k because I save a large proportion of my bonus and Christmas bonus etc.. That's usually between 5-10k a year.

Where do I want to go?
I want to have the freedom to decide for myself how much and where I want to work from around the age of 55. So it doesn't have to be early retirement, but I don't want to be dependent on a salary either. I find it difficult to give a fixed figure, as I don't know how some factors such as inflation will affect me, but 1.5 million would be the target by 55 (as things stand now).
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@MoKi28 You could use this - as a very rough guide - to calculate your required savings rate. Personally, I always calculate conservatively with a 5% return after inflation in the long term.
Let's quickly unpack the calculator: €1,500 savings rate (better safe than sorry), 27-year investment horizon, 5% return = €1.524 million. Goes exactly to 🤷‍♂️
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@KevinC Buffer: Salary increases > inflation rate not taken into account, return may be higher.
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@KevinC yes, that's exactly the 5% I was expecting ;)
Exactly, I expect a decent salary increase in the near future, which of course comes on top.
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Engineer and 3.5k net 😂 Germany is really at the end ... You must easily earn twice as much with your qualifications.... Really bad ....
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Yes, you're right, but with special payments etc. it's more like 4.2k and I assume that there will soon be a significant increase.
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@Testo-Investor Nobody will pay 150k p.a. (+ employer contributions etc.) for a relatively fresh engineer. At just under 85k all-in, he is doing well for his age. And if he makes an effort, doesn't fall on his head and moves up quickly, he can earn 150k in his mid/early 30s.
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@mrsz okey, of course you're right! Always full throttle and onwards ... but he already has a blatant portfolio :-)
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Have you been investing since you were 18 and have a "small" return?
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No, for about 5 years. And yes, the return could be better, but I made some bad decisions at the beginning. But most of the capital has come together in the last 24 months.
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Are you young? Why so few growth records? You can easily sit out a crisis for 15 years. I'm going all in on growth stocks. With a little dividend, of course.
What about Tesla and Nvidia? I'm completely new to the stock sector, but these should have future potential, right ?
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@BiGshorty87 I would have had a better depot back then 😅 Whether it still makes sense now, I don't know. I currently only buy ETFs. But it probably wouldn't do any harm either
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@FIRE55 As long as I have the impression that things will go uphill in the future, I will keep my feet still. But according to my calculations, it will make sense to reduce the proportion later on, also to reduce the risk of clumping :)
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