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BoldTake
@BoldTake
5Mo·

Time for an analysis?

Carl Zeiss $AFX (+1,23 %) produces lenses and accessories for medical devices. An exciting growth market with a tailwind from changing demographics.


I am gathering information for an analysis.

Has anyone looked into the company and or the market?

$JNJ (+1,35 %)
$ALC (+1,98 %)
$OLYMY etc?


Ps: please no analyst estimates😄

Please justify your own price targets in detail🫶

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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead
5Mo
Yep, contact @Soprano and let's put him to work
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
@topicswithhead
@Soprano you will be booked ;)
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
@topicswithhead Double is better😄
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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead
5Mo
@BoldTake difficult to say. Carl Zeiss is currently facing difficult times and has also messed up a lot. Nevertheless, the brand is still very highly regarded and the products are of good quality. However, the margin profiles are slowly approaching or have already reached a limit where you have to consider why you are holding the share. But one should not forget that the share is falling so sharply, mainly because of the float and the high multiple. The share is still trading at a P/E ratio of 24 and has 73% ordinary shares of CZ, which means that the float is there but not huge. It has pros and cons, it would probably be smarter to go into Alcon now. I believe in the share, but it could fall again. Difficult to list everything. Do you have any specific questions?
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
@topicswithhead thanks for the input!
No specific questions for now. I just want to get a feel for what to look out for at the company
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Soprano@Soprano
5Mo
@topicswithhead Yeah guys, what can I tell you? It's now a bottomless pit. But it's not much of their fault that things are no longer going well in China and the USA. The technology is still not bad. But I'm actually doing nothing more than sitting it out. I can't change the fact that geopolitics is not in our favor.
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
@Soprano Thank you for your comment!
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Jan@Barrd
5Mo
I once heard (I can't remember where) that Carl Zeiss is the only company that can produce the lenses for ASML's machines. So without them, not a single chip can be produced! I'll have to look that up again
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
As far as I know, this is Carl Zeiss and not Carl Zeiss Meditech (i.e. the mid-sized company that owns your shares🤔)
But I'm not that deep into it yet
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ThemenmitKopf@topicswithhead
5Mo
@BoldTake is Carl Zeiss SMT and ASMl holds 25 % of them, the rest belongs to Zeiss and thus to the Carl Zeiss Foundation. Unfortunately, it is not listed on the stock exchange.
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BoldTake@BoldTake
5Mo
@topicswithhead thank you !
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Grundstock@Grundstock
5Mo
I would also be very interested!
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