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Finn
@yngfinn
4Sem.·

Stock market simulation game

Good morning everyone,


Tomorrow I'm starting a project called Planspiel Börse, where the aim is to generate as much return as possible in groups of 4 in just under 4 months with a fictitious share/etf portfolio of €50,000.


Unfortunately, I have already noticed a few problems, there are almost no small-mid caps, which means it will be difficult to achieve a particularly good return.

In addition, you can only weight each position by 20%, there is an order fee of €15 + 0.3% and there is no leverage or similar.


Now I would like to know how you would approach this.


What would be your weighting?

What strategy would you use?

  • For example, would you focus on stocks that are currently trending like $PLTR (-0,27 %) or buy stocks that have fallen extremely and hope for a comeback like $NOVO B (-2,47 %)

Would you invest everything straight away?

  • (Time in the market beats timing the market) or hold back half of it and wait for a market setback.

Or do you already have ideas for stocks?

  • They would have to be in the Nasdaq100, DAX40, MDAX, Eurostoxx50 or Dow Jones30.



I look forward to your answers and am grateful for any help.


Addendum: Here is a list of all tradable stocks etc. PB25_Wertpapierliste.pdf

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Shrimpman@Shrimpman
4Sem.
Is it from the savings bank? We bought 5 individual shares with starter corelation to avoid the 20% rule and then used them to bet on sectors or industries. We also made it to 6th place and then waited 4 months for our €50 prize money 😂😂
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Shrimpman Hey yes, it's from the Sparkasse. Which sectors did you bet on?
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Shrimpman@Shrimpman
4Sem.
@yngfinn Tech, we are participating as students again this year, probably going for armor
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Shrimpman Okay, I had the same thought, but tech has been trending for a very long time and defense has already seen extreme returns like $RHM. Unfortunately, there are no other sectors with such high growth at the moment.
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Sebastian@Baisse-Jumper
4Sem.
Stock market simulation game. I know it too. 🤪 It has a somewhat suboptimal structure, as you can't select many stocks because only certain indices are supported. In principle, you should consider which stocks could perform well in the coming months (taking into account the existing indices). The simulation only has a relatively short duration.
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Epi@Epi
4Sem.
Strategy: 1. two teams, one momentum team, one mean reversion team.
2. the momentum team picks the 5 stocks from the tradable universe with the highest 1-year performance (optionally the 10 best stocks and the 5 worst stocks of the past month).
3. the mean reversion team takes the 5 worst stocks of the last year (optionally the 10 worst and of these the 5 best of the last month)
4. repetition at the end of each month until the end of the game.
5. the prize money is distributed equally to all.
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SemiGrowth@SemiGrowth
4Sem.
@Epi That sounds interesting. Are there any backtests for this yet? So as a real investment strategy?
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Epi@Epi
4Sem.
@SemiGrowth Not that I know of. It's just a concept for a time-limited game.
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SemiGrowth@SemiGrowth
4Sem.
@Epi because it is too volatile?
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Epi@Epi
4Sem.
@SemiGrowth Rather because it is too concentrated. In a real portfolio, I would try to find the optimum relationship between momentum and mean reversion. Here it is more of an attempt to land a lucky strike. You never know exactly which regime you are in. 😏
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
3Sem.
@Epi
My dear, a good suggestion.
But I think working with the mean reversion strategy requires a bit of experience.
Which of course would be good for the project to deal with trading.
For a long-term investment, which I would recommend to young people, perhaps not the best strategy. Because it is also somewhat time-consuming.
Which stocks do you currently see that would fit into the strategy. And are below the average?
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Epi@Epi
3Sem.
@Tenbagger2024 Your objection is justified. If the rules of the stock market game are anything like the ones I used to play at school, then they are pretty unsuitable for quick trading. It should also only be a suggestion for end-of-month strategies. So much more relaxed.
And the two teams can learn!

Oh, I suspect anyway that rule-based investing is only for uncool nerds and not for budding financial geniuses. What could the students say if they were successful? "The strategy was just right for the market situation" - not really. 😂
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Multibagger @Tenbagger2024 It would be exciting to hear your opinion on this, maybe you also have some stocks that you can recommend to me :)
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Chris@Multibagger
4Sem.
@yngfinn can you take commodities, i.e. gold, silver, etc.? And 40% crypto is far too high in my opinion. But I'm sure others here can assess that better.
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Multibagger The 60/40 was just an example, I hadn't thought about it and there are oil, gold and silver open end certificates but unfortunately you can't trade the commodities normally. For example, this is the gold certificate $AT0000A0BJ52
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Klein-Anleger1@Klein-Anleger1
4Sem.
Hi, we also do this at our school, but I have to correct you a little, unfortunately you can only buy crypto in the training portfolio and even stocks like Oracle are unfortunately not tradable. You can only trade shares that are listed on the DAX, MDAX, Nasdaq, Dow Jones and so on.... The fee structure is a bit different from what you described. The fees are 0.3%, but 15 euros is the minimum fee... All in all, I think it's good that you at least learn something like that at school... Of course I'm also registered, even if most of the shares I have in my custody account with real money are not tradable there at all xD HG
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Klein-Anleger1 Thanks for the hint, I have corrected the post again. Until now you only had access to the training depot so I didn't know that crypto wasn't available in the competition depot. I think it's actually very good that there is something like this at school, but unfortunately it's not discussed enough in class.
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
4Sem.
It could be a bit bumpy in October. It is therefore difficult to say. Stocks that have already performed well could of course also correct.
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Tenbagger2024 You are right, but with a 4-month investment horizon it is also critical to bet on stocks where you hope for a "breakthrough" and then wait for it all the time.
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
4Sem.
@yngfinn
We'll see what the community tells us 🚀
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
4Sem.
@yngfinn
Take a look at $AG1. There are reports of expansions today
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Tenbagger2024 Okay, thank you, I'll have a look right away.
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
4Sem.
@yngfinn
But it has already performed well. Therefore also correction risk
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Tenbagger2024@Tenbagger2024
4Sem.
I would perhaps use a $AMZN as a backup. Have AI fantasy.
Figures are due at the end of October.
You can become more speculative around that time
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Finn@yngfinn
4Sem.
@Tenbagger2024 Okay, thank you, I was planning to build a small core for the time being anyway until better opportunities arise.
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Carlos@market_maverick_2062
3Sem.
I don’t trade in such short periods, but I would have to say Tesla
… 😂 here we go…
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