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Sale Instabank

Dear gq community,

There are a lot of reports about great titles and good buys, but the sale and the reasons behind it are sometimes neglected.

So here's a short post from me today.


I have decided to liquidate my position of $INSTA (-0,4 %) and have taken a profit of just under 10% after the share has fallen more and more in recent days.

However, this was not the main reason. As a small investor, I have not invested large amounts in individual stocks and the dividends are therefore quite low, but I am still pleased.

What I couldn't be happy about at all, however, was the last dividend payment from $INSTA (-0,4 %) .

I received a dividend of just under €38, of which €18 remained after tax.

Yes, I know I could get the foreign withholding tax back, but the effort involved is not small.

That's why I'm now going to gradually get rid of all the shares in my portfolio where I would have to actively take care of reclaiming the tax, i.e. all shares from countries that don't have a tax treaty with Germany.


Am I the only one who thinks this way or do you not care or do you make the effort to reclaim withholding tax from countries like France, Italy or Norway?

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I got out weeks ago. Congratulations take profit and good. Everything done right
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@Raketentoni Thank you and congratulations too, then it must have been one percent more for you. 👍🏼
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But also bear in mind that you can claim 15% of the dividend on your German tax return as part of the DTA, leaving only 10% foreign withholding tax (Norway). ☝🏻
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@SAUgut777 Thanks for the tip, I'll have to see how to do that for tax purposes.
Nevertheless, 10% is lost if I don't want to make the effort 😉.
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@TradingHase Last year, for example, I filled in the foreign income form in Annex CEP and the amount was refunded.
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I am invested with larger amounts in Scandinavian dividend shares and accordingly I recover the tax locally. Regardless of whether it's Norway or Denmark. It takes half an hour at most per country. For the few euros in your case, it's not really worth the effort. In France, I have an advance exemption through my broker. And Italy... that's a story in itself. Austria is also very easy, by the way.
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@Dividendenopi I read about Italy 😂 Unfortunately, advance exemption is not possible with all brokers.
Don't you have to run to the German tax office for every country or even share to confirm your place of residence?
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@TradingHase That's right, although it works without any problems by post. Send it in duplicate and I had it back within a week. You just have to check for each country whether they accept the general form or, for example, Austria. Here the confirmation must be on the refund form. If it's only a small amount, I wouldn't do that either.
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However, as my strategy is not based purely on dividends, I fortunately save myself some of this effort 😬 but personally it would also be too much effort for me or I would never actually be involved in reclaiming the taxes 😅
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@Aktienhauptmeister Neither had I in the past until I read about it here. It was my @Dividendenopi
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@TradingHase Yes, that was it. At least I have explained Norway in detail. There will be an update on this in the next few weeks. I also thought I would provide additional information on other countries.
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@Dividendenopi This is certainly relevant for many, as there is probably still some ignorance about it
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No, that's too much effort for me personally, so I avoid shares from these countries.
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@JuppDupp Thanks for your feedback, I'm not alone with this thought after all. 👍🏼
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Well, it was worth it anyway. There are also entrepreneurs who will give you all the tax back in return for a share. So you still get part of the tax back without working
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@Tenbagger2024 Yes, they do exist. Have you looked at their fees and minimum rates? You can still make money with your Klexker amounts. 🤷🏼‍♂️
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