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TaxesAreTheft
@TaxesAreTheft
1Sem.·

I love BIG TOBACCO

$BATS (+0,37 %) is my biggest position and I am over the moon. $PM (+0,3 %) It's still going great. Big dividends are trickling into my portfolio for reinvestment.


Cheers to big tobacco and many, many years of shareholder value.


Long live Joe Camel

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Marco
@Marco_91
2Sem.·

❌ Why investing in companies like British American Tobacco is ethically unacceptable

$BATS (+0,37 %)

British American Tobacco (BAT) is one of the largest tobacco companies in the world - and is emblematic of an industry whose business model is based on addiction, disease and environmental destruction.


Investing in companies like BAT supports a business model based on addiction, disease and environmental destruction. It is high time that ethical criteria were given more weight in the financial world. Capital should not flow where it causes damage - but where it shapes the future.

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Matthias@ZaphodB
1Sem.
If you want to do without all "unethical" investments, the only thing left is the piggy bank, right? Unfortunately, where money CAN be made, that's what happens. It is precisely these ethical ideas that are one of the reasons why things are going downhill here in Germany. But everyone can do as they please.
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TotallyLost@TotallyLost
1Sem.
@ZaphodB I can already see you standing before our Creator and arguing like this. And God like this:
"LoL you are going to HELL BITCH!" (yes, God speaks English)

For me, the only option is $FLXA until a Markus Söder ETF comes along. 🥨🍺
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TaxesAreTheft@TaxesAreTheft
1Sem.
@TotallyLost no way is there such an ETF
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TotallyLost@TotallyLost
1Sem.
@TaxesAreTheft... the Americans are way ahead of us, they have an entire issuer that does nothing else:
https://www.inspireetf.com/etfs

Or of course the good old Sharia ETFs:
https://www.justetf.com/en/how-to/invest-islamic.html
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market_maestro_2368@market_maestro_2368
1Sem.
Well, there's not really much that's sustainable and ethical. I thought I'd invest in a climate protection fund and immediately burned through 50%.
The financial world and investors are interested in returns and less in a clear conscience. You can see that with Defence and Rare Minerals....that's going well!
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Matthias@ZaphodB
1Sem.
@TotallyLost so erit good GTH some customers hear from me too. ALWAYS. IT WILL BE öustog inf grdrlöih in the basement...lujah and Hosi-anna is nothing for me. HELLS bells rather
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Zerax@Zerax
1Sem.
Joe Camel. 😂 This is advertising made in the 80s.
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TaxesAreTheft@TaxesAreTheft
1Sem.
@Zerax ICON
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Stephan Schnee@MrCumEx
1Sem.
Tobacco is the best industry because no industry will ever have more loyal customers. Not even the iPhone junkies will ever be so loyal!
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Sahnehäubchen 🦋.@Savvy_investor_2000
1Sem.
I understand your impulse to take a provocative stance when you feel restricted by moral criticism. But there is still a difference between justifying a decision and celebrating it, even though you know the damage it causes. Deliberately celebrating something like this against ethical debate is more of a flight into cynicism. If you think that's strength ... fine.
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TaxesAreTheft@TaxesAreTheft
1Sem.
@Savvy_investor_2000 I am unfortunately known here for my love of tobacco and possibly morally questionable investments.
The stock market is all about returns, and that is my moral compass on the stock market.

I would draw the line at human trafficking.

From war to water, anything is fine with me.
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Yoshika 🦋.@Yoshika
1Sem.
@TaxesAreTheft
Yes, unfortunately. But you deliberately staged this as a counterpoint to the ethics debate.
I can understand that people struggle with moral criticism, but turning it into a stage for cynicism is a different level.

You are not defending your dividends here against losses, but quite deliberately against morality. You say that returns are enough for you as an answer to any form of responsibility.
That is no longer market-based pragmatism, but a celebration of a moral vacuum.
If you position yourself in this way here, you are not promoting financial freedom, but deliberately undermining every limit.
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Yoshika 🦋.@Yoshika
1Sem.
@Yoshika
...I am tougher than morals 🙄
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GiCi@GiCi
1Sem.
@Yoshika And I would also add that this moral vacuum is not leading to any extra-return. So, this "pragmatic anti-moralist" stance will not make anyone beat the market, nor be a better investor.
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Yoshika 🦋.@Yoshika
1Sem.
@GiCi
Someone has to underperform with conviction 🙂
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Charmin@Charmin
1Sem.
The plush camel campaign of the 80s practically cost Camel its entire market share. The brand has never recovered from this nonsense (they were on a par with Marlboro).

$BATS is still great, I also have it in my PF (but still far too few).
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Jan K.@Jank86
1Sem.
Who cares? I'm in it for the money, snowflake.
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Nom@user28461
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At first I thought of Werner when I saw the picture. Full of roeääääh!
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