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Runs, runs and runs - sometimes it pays to keep going: Siemens Energy

Original buy-ins in 2020 were between €20 and €29 - then sold and bought again straight away to take advantage of the allowance and have been running ever since.

Not all times were good, but holding on was worth it. :-) It's amazing how the share is doing. Now I have to start thinking about whether I should take my stake out and just let the profits run.

Any opinions? :)

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17 Commentaires

John N.@Pilz559

If you can put your money to good use elsewhere, why not?

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Patrick@Pazi3

Why remove the insert if you are still convinced?

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Epi@Epi

@Pazi3 Anchor effect. Typical psychological trap and yield killer.

I like this trap, otherwise momentum wouldn't work. 😊

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Patrick@Pazi3

@Epi That's definitely true.

A bit off-topic, though:
Do you do a lot of chart analysis?

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Franziska Lindner@DieFinanzchaotin

@Epi yes, that's probably true -

Yes, I actually have some concerns because it went so damn well. On the other hand, you're right - I still believe in the case. I never stopped with it and therefore kept it even during the weak period. :)
I'll probably just leave it as it is. I still have my difficulties with exit scenarios. But I am aware of that. Because I bought the shares in my early days and left them and since then have only invested in ETFs - which are supposed to remain untouched for decades and only the automatic savings plan is running

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Epi@Epi

@DieFinanzchaotin Partial sales may make sense. It just depends on the reason. Are they part of a well thought-out overall strategy or just the effect of a psychological trap?

Example: If you have a strategy in your portfolio that limits the risk of individual stocks to X% by inversely limiting the proportion to Y% depending on volatility and you carry out a rebalancing at the end of each month, then a partial sale would be appropriate - regardless of whether you feel comfortable with it or not. 🤷

Only very few people invest like this. It's just boring and not much fun. That's why only 5% of all private investors beat the SP500. 😅

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Epi@Epi

@Pazi3 I did once. I look at charts from time to time and sometimes draw a Fibo extension over an SKS formation. But apart from a few of my individual stocks, I don't really trade according to this anymore. The success rate is simply too low.

Why do you ask?

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Patrick@Pazi3

@Epi You seem to be taking a very strategic approach to investing. So I wanted to ask your opinion on whether it makes sense to invest time in chart analysis.

My question has more or less already been answered 😉. Thank you at this point.

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Epi@Epi

@Pazi3 The effect may well be right. Since tackling the retirement at 55 project, I no longer want to leave anything to chance. My current topics are less about charting and more about meta-strategies for optimized strategy allocation. But this is so far removed from the average Getqiner that it's too much even for the strategy nerds.
I think it's great. After all, I can then plan pretty precisely when I no longer need to work. In purely mathematical terms, I reached my goal 10 years earlier. It's worth falling off the wagon for that. 😅🤘

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Patrick@Pazi3

@Epi let me know as soon as you plan the first online course😉.
(I suspect the topic is very complex).

You might even make it 15 years earlier by selling online courses. 🤣

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Epi@Epi

@Pazi3 Oh, the complexity is not so much the problem. It's more the level of abstraction. Most people only deal with individual stocks. Those optimally aggregated into ETFs, those optimally aggregated into strategies, those optimally aggregated into meta-strategies. Who is supposed to understand that? Even those who could understand it don't want to. Because it's too abstract and they prefer to muddle along intuitively. Some people are successful this way and make themselves visible - the unsuccessful ones just disappear and don't get in touch anymore.
In short: I don't think there would be much interest in such online courses. Besides, I'm still learning the ropes myself and have other things to do. And if I can make a good living from my portfolio, I won't need an online course any more.

Would you teach online courses if you regularly earn 10k a month on the stock market? Only people who don't know how the stock market works do that. 😅

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Franziska Lindner@DieFinanzchaotin

@Epi As I said, the individual shares were not so well thought out as far as that was concerned. In fact, they are all from my first three quarters of a year on the stock market. :D I didn't know much about them then, but I was convinced of the companies and had done a lot of research into them. I hadn't given much thought to shares and the like, and in some cases didn't think about exiting afterwards.

I then realized relatively quickly what you are saying. A "boring" ETF performs better. That's why the shares have been lying around since then and I've only got rid of those whose companies I wasn't convinced about. :) That's why I'm still struggling with these remaining shares today. No more new money has flowed into them. :-) That's why I don't have a direct strategy for the proportion of individual stocks in my portfolio and co, because I'm no longer interested in them, apart from the fact that I continue to observe the companies on the side and find them exciting.

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Joe@Schmiedseppe

Had a large Siemens position at the time of the spin-off and held on to my free shares. It was a good move. Wanted to buy more, but then invested it in $LIN& $DE. Linde has unfortunately not been good so far 🙂
Always let profits run. Cost me a lot in opportunity costs until I realized that.

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