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Handelsblatt analysis of investors' investment behavior based on Getquin data

German investors who bet on the capital market achieved decent returns last year. This is the result of an of the portfolios of 330,000 users of the Getquin platformplatform, which is exclusively available to Handelsblatt. According to this, the average return was between 24 and 30 percent, depending on the size of the portfolio.


Many of these investors are pursuing unnecessarily risky strategies. This is because they invest a relatively large proportion of their money in individual shares. In contrast, exchange-traded ETFs, which often track broad indices, account for a smaller proportion.


It is striking how much money Getquin users have invested in individual company shares. On average, the average share of individual shares is 55 percent of the investment capital. In contrast, the average ETF share is only 37 percent.

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When looking at the individual portfolio groups, it is interesting to note that most individual shares are held in small portfolios. However, even in the over EUR 100,000 portfolio group, investors have invested more than half of their money in individual stocks.

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German Getquin users particularly like to invest in tech companies, many of them from the USA. It is therefore not surprising that US companies frequently appear among the 20 most popular individual stocks.


Many investors prefer shares from their home country. This phenomenon is known as "home bias". This apparently selective perception in favor of the domestic financial market explains why Allianz $ALV (-0,14 %) , SAP $SAP, BASF $BAS (+1,69 %) , Munich Re $MUV2 (-0,6 %) and Deutsche Telekom $DTE (+0,67 %) are five German companies. Siemens $SIE (-0,45 %) and Mercedes Benz $MBG (-1,31 %) are in the next five places.


Andreas Hackethal is not surprised that Getquin investors overweight both the domestic market and the tech sector. The finance professor from Goethe University Frankfurt's own portfolio studies produced similar results: Investors bought many individual stocks and more often than average from the domestic market. In this way, they tried to beat the market. Hackethal criticizes the "poor diversification" of Getquin usersand says: "Having so many individual stocks is an unnecessarily risky strategy."


In relation to the tech sector, this approach is particularly problematic: Because many ETFs already include the big tech companies anyway - including the funds that are most popular with Getquin investors: Replicas of the world equity indices MSCI World and FTSE All World as well as the US S&P 500. There is also one ETF in the top 10 that focuses on technology companies. In this respect, investors have bought a double tech overweight via individual shares and ETFs.


How have the portfolios of Getquin users developed? The strategies look successful over the past year: All custody account groups made gains in 2024, says Steil. The largest portfolios achieved the highest average return.


In the longer term, however, the picture is not so rosy. In 2022, for example, "most of the smaller portfolios made losses", notes Steil. Larger portfolios, on the other hand, show "consistently good figures" over the years, according to the analysis.

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The reason is clear: in the largest portfolios, the proportion of individual shares in cryptocurrencies, which also fluctuate greatly in value, is relatively low. The ETF ratio is correspondingly high at just under 40 percent. Investors with larger portfolios therefore invest their capital in a more diversified manner. Olaf Stotz, Professor of Asset Management at the private university Frankfurt School of Finance & Management, explains this as follows: investors would be more rational with larger assets.


Experts generally do not think much of a strategy that tries to achieve higher returns with individual shares than by betting on the broad market. "Buying individual shares is a very bad bet," warns Niels Nauhauser, capital market expert at the consumer advice center in Baden-Württemberg.


Researcher Hackethal confirms this: On average, "investors left three percent return per year if they try to beat the market with certain strategies. The researcher has calculated: Investing in individual shares is "twice or three times as risky" as investing in the MSCI World.


The return on even the largest Getquin portfolios was only 0.5 percentage points higher than the broad US S&P 500 index last year.

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With a corresponding index ETF, investors would have achieved almost the same return, but would have spread the risk of portfolio losses much more widely - across all 500 shares in the index.


For Hackethal, there are therefore no rational reasons for an individual share strategy. Why do many people still invest in this way? Hackethal says: "They want to feel a kick. They overestimate themselves. And they want to make money as quickly as possible." All of this is particularly true of younger and male investors.


However, a look at stock market history teaches the opposite: For long-term wealth accumulation, it is important to be patient and realistic, Hackethal emphasizes. Nobody should expect a return of 20 percent or more in the long term.


With an ETF on the global share index MSCI World, an investor could have accumulated 100,000 euros over the past 20 years with a monthly investment of 250 euros. The average annual return was 6.8 percent. With a savings rate of 200 euros per month, this mark would have been broken after 21 years on average.


This is not a rapid increase in wealth, as promised by windy finfluencers with reference to hype stocks such as Nvidia or cryptocurrencies. On the other hand, an investor with such an ETF strategy is taking significantly less risk.


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Source / graphics: Handelsblatt, 17.02.25

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Very cool that getquin is also mentioned in such a large medium as the Handelsblatt! Hopefully it will bring one or two more users to the platform!

But what annoys me a bit about the article is this typical German risk-averse assessment:
"Individual stocks are so risky" - In the US, no one would think of categorizing a diversified portfolio of individual stocks as risky. At least no less risky than an ETF on the S&P 500.

In an S&P 500 ETF, the Big 8 (if you add Broadcom) make up around 35%.

In my portfolio there is no Amazon, Tesla and Broadcom and the share of the big 8 in my portfolio is therefore only 25%. According to the logic of the article, would the S&P 500 ETF be riskier because it has an even bigger Big Tech chunk? (Incidentally, it is 24% in the MSCI World and 22% in the All-World)

That's a bit too simple for me: individual stocks = riskier than an ETF

Also the argument that in 2022 most have made losses. In 2022, an MSCI World Index made losses of around 13% - so it's not necessarily surprising that most investors also made losses.

In my opinion, this is a typical German investment article, where the only thing missing at the end is the advice that you shouldn't invest everything in shares / ETFs, but perhaps also take out pension insurance or something similar...
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Thanks for sharing - someone was quicker than us! 🙂

The figures impressively show how well this community invests its money.
Of course, the Handelsblatt's conclusion does not reflect our view; it is rather the personal assessment of a professor on the subject of investing.

What particularly stood out for me was the central role that ETFs play in the portfolios. In smaller portfolios, they made up almost half of the holdings.

However, it is also obvious that there is a correlation between portfolio size and investment experience and history. It therefore makes sense to me that larger portfolios have a higher equity allocation.
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I would agree in principle. However, many may have a lot of fun with it or meticulously follow the market and exciting stocks so that they end up in the portfolio. If you have stocks like $HIMS, #palantir etc. Then it is quite possible to more than outperform the market. In the long term, it probably makes more sense to put the profits into an ETF.
There may also be individual stocks that are extremely corrective or similar that you can pick up in order to outperform the MSCI World in the long term
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@Maddy-0 Whenever I read about "fun" or "investing as a hobby":

So you don't want to make money if you willingly accept that you won't even get a standard market return? 😅

With the annual returns, you can always see that the median doesn't even achieve the index return. Over several years, it will be much less.

The statistics on long-term investing are generally very clear that most people with stock picking do not achieve an index return over several years, but are far below it.
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Nice analysis. I remain unwaveringly invested with my broadly diversified portfolio of 29 stocks plus Bitcoin and gold.
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Cool, my portfolio has performed better over 12 months, congratulations to all those who have also said goodbye to the savings book mentality - this means that my pension is now really secure (greetings to Norbert go out and up).
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I find the report quite negative. On the one hand, people complain about home bias and irrationality and then suddenly moan that the S&P 500 (which only has US stocks) performs almost as well (keyword: cluster risk)
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Well, many people here have a lot of individual shares, but their portfolios are often better diversified and structured than many an index. In addition to my ETFs, for example, I have 45 individual shares from several countries, and no share is weighted at more than 5% within the portfolio. With a DAX or Dow Jones ETF, you have one country, fewer stocks and the largest positions are weighted at 10%.
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That's why my portfolio is doing better than 77% of getquin users. I also recently sold my last individual shares. People are very sensitive to stress in old age. With a well-diversified portfolio, I have achieved a performance of 25% after one year.
However, I can also understand younger investors who invest in individual shares. Their capital is still smaller and they want to see quick results.
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@Thomas_1963 "With age comes wisdom", because you probably realize how difficult it is to beat the market in the long term. 😅
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@Staatsmann I had five individual shares. Two yielded a double-digit percentage return, three a double-digit loss. It is indeed difficult.
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Very informative! Not only about the investor community on Getquin, but (for me above all) the experts' view of it.

The contrast to savings accounts and individual share speculation is always only the passive B&H world ETF portfolio. But not the rule-based, active ETF investment! The "experts" and "academics" are somehow blind to this. 🤔

Maybe this will be my personal challenge for the next few years: 10% of the Getquin community invest rule-based. 💪

Let's go: SPYTIPS and GTAA!
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@Epi What do you think about a middle ground between the two strategies? So a passive investment in a momentum ETF like $XDEM or $SPMO? It would also be interesting for me whether something like $SPMO would work with SPYTIPS or whether there is another sensible way to balance out the drawdowns without reducing the return.
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@TheStoic I find this fundamentally interesting and worth considering. The rebalancing rules in these ETFs are rather generous and designed for a volume of several billion euros. 1x or 2x per year. Accordingly, the return is a middle ground between active and passive, i.e. slightly higher than MSCI World or S&P500 but lower than GTAA or SPYTIPS.

A combination of $SPMO and Spytips sounds interesting, but would give away the return from 2x leverage. If there was a 2xleverage mom SPY... that would be interesting! 😁
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One can have the impression that they are more interested in pushing people to pay the comissions for ETFs or delegate their investment XDDD

And really with the whole variation from MSCI world at the end, the same stocks are very outweighted, so where is the whole discussion about risk?

In my opinion there are some decent ETFs and invest also in them, but still smaller amounts than in the stocks. Really some of them are just purely crap. I don't see the point there.
My portfolio (not public yet) has many positions, some of them very small and has all kind of assets from stocks and derivatives to crypto, ETFs and also ETFs over commodities has by itself enough diversification. I don't see the point in taking a basket where I don't like half of what is inside...
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@serkeftin Are you able to perform at least with a market performance with your „stock picking“ for 10+ years? :)
@Staatsmann that only time will tell it, but for the current months it's beating it several times.
I think it's a matter of seeing how much time you can dedicate to (micro)manage the portfolio.

I completely understand those with very high portfolios that preer to go with an ETF, that's completely understandable also, but my focus is another one and also to generate passive income through dividends (or crypto staking for those liking more risk).

And with that said, I spend also a certain amount of time to review many ETFs to see what is inside (when possible) and do my cherry picking of what makes more sense. It's a matter of investing quite much time in revewing those with better performance and then filtering out what can potentially outperform the ETF. If you want is mking your own ETF, just you don't pay the commission, but takes much more time to produce and to look after.
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On the subject of home bias: it's not irrational at all. If something happens at Siemens or TUI, the German-language press is the first to report it.
Otherwise: the comparison with the S&P500 in 2024 is flawed. In years when US tech stocks are weak, individual stocks from other countries are profitable. And there is little else that really speaks against blue chips as individual stocks. Siemens or Allianz going bust overnight is a possibility, but it is very unrealistic. It also makes a difference whether my 60% individual shares consist of 10 companies or 40, in the latter case I can diversify and have a hand-picked selection of top performers in my portfolio.
Sure, it's all a lot of work, and a bit of brains, instinct, intuition and a pinch of luck are of course part of it, but even if you don't beat the market, it's just a nice hobby!
@jonas189 Hobbies usually cost money. If this also applies to your own portfolio instead of earning money, I think you're doing it wrong. In any case, I invest it for the third stage of my life, without thinking about a hobby
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@jonas189 But what I regularly fail to see when selecting individual stocks is the price at which the community buys. Little or no attention is paid to this. As long as the price is pointing upwards, the price justifies any price and as soon as the value falls, the share must automatically be well valued.

A VW is a solid car, but I pay significantly less for a Seat or Skoda and in bad times (let's say if the car breaks down) I even have a financial cushion that I can use for repairs due to the safety margin of the price I paid :)
I am very surprised at the distribution between ETFs and individual shares. Based on what I always read here, I would have bet that at least 2/3 of the getquin investors invest in ETFs. But probably those with a high volume of individual shares do not participate in the communication here.
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@Multibagger Or they participate and they're just not as noticeable as those who have a new strategy with lots of fomo every week. 😅
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A question for @Kundenservice - are these only public portfolios, i.e. those where the owner has the composition and price open, or all portfolios, including mine, for example? Very few users here have an open portfolio with open values.
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@CMustermann Only portfolios that were either imported via an automatic connection or have at least X manual transactions are taken into account.

The data is taken from the database regardless of the portfolio status, i.e. it cannot be traced back to individual users.

This means that we cannot check whether the data from one of your specific portfolios has been included in the analysis.

In the end, the database only says: X% of users with a portfolio value of Y have ISIN Z with a weighting of B to C% and a return in the D-E range.
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@Kundenservice Great, thanks for the clarification :) maybe you should announce again publicly if such studies with your data take place more often (which I think is good!)
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@CMustermann Actually, we wanted to post something ourselves, but if someone is faster, then we don't need to publish anything twice. :)
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@Kundenservice I don't mean the study itself, I mean a disclaimer from one of your spokespeople that the data is anonymized as mentioned and cannot be traced back. I can imagine that this is important to some users.

After all, you are working here with external parties with the sensitive data of users who, especially if they work with PDF import as I do, clearly also store sensitive data.
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@CMustermann We do not collect any personal data during PDF import.

The other data is also anonymized, even for us.

In other words, even getquin employees cannot simply look up what you have in your portfolio without your portfolio link.

In addition, we do not monetize any user data and this remains the case.
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@Kundenservice great, thanks for the clarification
But if I now invest my 1.2 trillion euro portfolio here, the Handelsblatt will be surprised at how much the proportion of individual shares is still rising.
Thanks for the article. The link does not work for me.
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@Gehebeltes-EFH you can't read either way, unfortunately. It's behind the paywall
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"According to Getquin founder Raphael Steil, users in Germany are on average between 20 and 35 years old"
->> ?
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@DusselDuck Then, at the age of 60, I'll break the average by a huge margin 😁🍻
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@Tom_laeuft Yes, me too! 🍻
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@Tom_laeuft Welcome to the club 🥂
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Thanks for the great contribution, you machine 🙌🔥
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Well, somehow a typical German article. The evil individual shares....
Great contribution and what would have happened now if you had parked a large part in nvidia some time ago. Then you would have a return that you would never achieve with the etf.
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